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Hi all,

I’m looking to change my room thermostat - it’s currently an old type as pictured below, which is positioned in a draughty hallway which is no good what so ever. I need a thermostat in my living room instead where we spend most of our time.

Is it easy to disconnect the existing - no problems leaving it in place, and replacing it with a wireless one which I can place in the living room or whichever room i want?

If so any suggestions on a cheap option? In the next year or two I plan to move to Drayton Wiser or Evohome but for now I just want a stat that can actually measure / cut off when i reach say 20deg in the living room - the draughty hall never hits temp / never cuts off the boiler because of it’s position.

Thanks

Ross
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It's designed to go in the coldest spot, if you put it in your living room and shut the door the living room will be nice but the rest of the house might be cold

If it's too warm in your living room adjust the trv on the rads in there down one
 
I get that in some theory, but it’s completely pointless as it never ever gets to temp - above say 16degs in the passage. So never kicks off, so say i have the heating programmed for 6-10pm, it will stay on for that whole time. I want it to knock off once warm enough in the main room, then kick back in when the temp drops.

Can it be moved / disconnected and replaced with a wireless one? Or is it a big job?
 
Rossjm said:
I get that in some theory, but it’s completely pointless as it never ever gets to temp - above say 16degs in the passage. So never kicks off, so say i have the heating programmed for 6-10pm, it will stay on for that whole time. I want it to knock off once warm enough in the main room, then kick back in when the temp drops.

Can it be moved / disconnected and replaced with a wireless one? Or is it a big job?
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How warm does your living room get? If you place a roomstat in your living room, then its more than likely that the rest of the property will remain cold.

If the passage never gets to 16 degrees then try it at 15 degrees.

Adding some draft proofing may help!
 
Get a programmable RF thermostat too, more accurate and you can either have it on your wall or take it from room to room with you.
 
I can't see any reason a wireless one wouldn't work. As others have said, the stat is in the hall for a reason, but the advantage of wireless is you can move it around until you find the location that best suits YOUR needs.
 
I know the room stat has traditionally been fitted in the hallway, but ive come to the opinion that its also dosent make sense for a large number of households. The one room I want the temperature accurately controlled is the living room so that's where i put my room stat and i always discuss the option with customers. I meet people who are struggling to get there front room at the correct temp with thermostatic rad valves. So I agree a wireless unit you can move to the best location is ok.
 
Reassuring to hear, Gary, that there are others out there that actually listen to what their customers want. I got into this trade via DIY because I could never get a heating installer to explain why he couldn't do what I, the customer, thought was right for me.

All I ever got was 'oh, this is the conventional way of doing it and you don't want to start doing --- [whatever I was suggesting]'. So I did some research, built a new heating system and connected it to the old boiler. It was a weird system, but it worked perfectly for me, and did everthing I wanted it to do, and performed to design specification. The plumbing wasn't exactly pretty, but it was watertight.

The formal training started much later.
 
Thanks for the replies all, Ric / Gary - it’s great to hear your opinions too - the hall is as warm as I can make it for the time being rad size / draught proofing wise. On that basis is it easy enough to remove / disconnect that old style thermostat and replace with a digital wireless one? Or is it best left to a plumber? Or would it be an electrician!?

Thanks

Ross

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Reassuring to hear, Gary, that there are others out there that actually listen to what their customers want. I got into this trade via DIY because I could never get a heating installer to explain why he couldn't do what I, the customer, thought was right for me.

All I ever got was 'oh, this is the conventional way of doing it and you don't want to start doing --- [whatever I was suggesting]'. So I did some research, built a new heating system and connected it to the old boiler. It was a weird system, but it worked perfectly for me, and did everthing I wanted it to do, and performed to design specification. The plumbing wasn't exactly pretty, but it was watertight.

The formal training started much later.
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Plumbcenter do their own RF programable thermostat which is very good, its made by honeywell. Its easy to install and very easy to use too.
 
Just bought one of these. easy to replace from old RT in hall.....

Drayton Digistat +RF Room Thermostat
 
Speaking strictly, you'd need to be an electrician to be likely to have the test equipment to be able to test your new installation in accordance with the regulations. Pragmatically, there are many electricians who are scared of heating controls, even though it, technically, is their job, and I know very few electricians who would bother to test after such a small job. If you understand the basics of electrical wiring and can read and understand the instructions and wiring diagrams, it is a relatively easy job, not much harder than changing a lightswitch.
 
If I remember, the main problem comes when replacing a 2 wire with a 3 or even 4 wire system. Most of the wireless ones need a permanent live and a neutral, which some roomstats dont.
 
Rossjm said:
Hi all,

I’m looking to change my room thermostat - it’s currently an old type as pictured below, which is positioned in a draughty hallway which is no good what so ever. I need a thermostat in my living room instead where we spend most of our time.

Is it easy to disconnect the existing - no problems leaving it in place, and replacing it with a wireless one which I can place in the living room or whichever room i want?

If so any suggestions on a cheap option? In the next year or two I plan to move to Drayton Wiser or Evohome but for now I just want a stat that can actually measure / cut off when i reach say 20deg in the living room - the draughty hall never hits temp / never cuts off the boiler because of it’s position.

Thanks

Ross
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Yes you can move stat to living room have this same set up in my home Use a Danfoss Wireless Room stat .This is something you can do yourself I see by your attached Diagram you have a wireing centre and the Room stat either knocks of a MIV or Just Boiler You will need 4 core cable In the wireing centre you will see were Old stat is wired draw were these wires are so you can know were to put new wires all you need is live and netural going to RF Box plus two wires going to centre in all 4 wire to centre to RF Box Live Netural .Com . Call. So were you have the room stat Put the RF Box Wired To WCentre then install stat in living room just remove head on TRV in Living Room If you Donot do this TRV will Mess with Room Stat
 
I'd practice changing the light switch first myself..
Just make sure of safe isolation and adhere to manufacturer instructions.
 
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