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An election with electoral delegates is an election in which voters do not choose between candidates for an office, but elect people who then choose. It is one of the oldest forms of elections, and is used by many countries for heads of state (such as presidents), cabinets, heads of government (such as prime ministers), and/or upper houses. It is also used for some supranational legislatures.
Positions that are indirectly elected may be chosen by a permanent body (such as a parliament) or by a special body convened solely for that purpose (such as an electoral college).
In nearly all cases the body that controls the executive branch (such as a cabinet) is elected indirectly. This includes the cabinets of most parliamentary systems; members of the public elect the parliamentarians, who then elect the cabinet. Upper houses, especially in federal republics, are often indirectly elected, either by the corresponding lower house or cabinet. Similarly, supranational legislatures can be indirectly elected by constituent countries' legislatures or executive governments. The indirect democracy is run by electoral college or president

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    Unvented Indirect / Low Pressure

    A local firm have quoted for an unvented indirect Megaflo cylinder to cure low pressure hot water around the entire house to run off an ancient Kingfisher 2 boiler. Mains cold water to the kitchen sink is good but all other cold and hot water around the house is dire. Is this a good solution...
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    • Forum: USA
  2. R

    Can an unvented indirect cylinder be used just on electric?

    I'm looking at getting an unvented cylinder fitted as i'm redoing the bathroom, at the moment its a direct system, but next year I'm looking to swap to an airsource heat pump. Can a high efficiency indurect cylinder be used as a direct one i.e add 2 elements,. Just so i can th en plumb in the...
    • rikpal
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    • america cylinder electric indirect unvented usa
    • Replies: 5
    • Forum: USA
  3. N

    Vented Indirect System Questions

    Hi, First of all, apologies, I have a really annoying need to understand things in minute detail. Today my Hot Water Cylinder seemingly ran out of adequately heated water after two short showers. The cylinder was heated between 8:30am-9:30am to a temp of 60 degrees. The only use was two short...
    • nick17
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    • Replies: 7
    • Forum: Ireland
  4. N

    Plumbing query indirect

    So I had a young lad do some work for me he has all his tickets so should know what he’s doing. Maybe it’s me being old fashioned I know a fair bit about plumbing but no expert. New property sealed system indirect cylinder. Here’s my confusion blue and red are flow and return from boiler, red...
    • Neilg81uk
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    • america indirect plumbing query usa
    • Replies: 13
    • Forum: USA
  5. J

    Indirect Drainage Problem (without getting thru the floor)

    Hello all! glad to be here.... gonna be doing quite some plumbing work with a handyman of mine to lower cost of my new business so I hope this is the right place to get some good pro info! So with my new biz, they are requiring a 3 basin sink like a restaurant kitchen, and with this they...
    • JMASTERJ
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  6. J

    USA Tankless oil boiler/water heater - not enough

    We are a family of 5, we are not getting enough hot water from our relatively new tankless heater (it fluctuates in heat all the Time and won’t fill up a bath consistently with hot water - can’t support 5 people) . We want to add a water tank to increase amount of hot water available but have...
  7. K

    Which unvented indirect HORIZONTAL cylinder?

    Hi all Need to install a new horizontal indirect unvented hot water tank that's 300L in capacity. Looking for recommendations on best brands/models and the best place to purchase them from. I've been researching online and have seen these 3 so far: What would you guys recommend out of these...
  8. D

    Telford Indirect 135L Combination Cylinder Backing Up

    When the immersion heater is on I get some backing up in the cylinder - the hot water pushes up to the cold section of the tank. Is this a normal thing, as in the hot water will expand and rise or do I have a problem? I did adjust the ball valve so there is less cold in the top section giving...
  9. Lumen

    Advise on a NEW indirect unvented hot cylinder

    Hey guys! Came here to get advice about building a new shower and changing my current F&E heating system to accommodate this. There have been some great advise (I am glad to be part of this forum and this great community) majority said to go for an unvented hot cylinder. I've had few plumbers...
  10. D

    Horizontal cylinder indirect immersion heating element burnt out

    Hi We recently had a horizontal cylinder installed with a main hot water supply from a gas boiler. The immersion heater was hooked up to a solar panel diverter to utilise excess power generated by the panels. This worked great for the first few months, but suddenly the diverter was reporting...
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    Primatic Gravity Hot Water Controls upgrade or new Indirect Cylinder

    My parents have a Baxi Back Boiler with a pumped central heating system and gravity hot water system with a Primatic cylinder. My Mum's asthma is getting more severe due to the house being unheated at night. I am looking for a way for them to be able to have their central heating on low at night...
  12. S

    Newbie Advice - Installing shower pump under Elson Ruby indirect tank

    I'm looking for some advice on installing a shower pump in a flat with Elson twin storage tanks. The hot tank is an Elson Ruby indirect heated by a Baxi Solo HE. There's no shower at all at the moment as the shower would be above the level of the tank and it's not pumped. The hot tank is...
  13. B

    Using Indirect Cylinder To Heat Radiators

    Hello, I’m wondering if I could use an indirect cylinder to heat the water for a small central heating system. My plan is to use the the heat from inside of the cylinder to heat the coil and then use a pump connected to a thermostat to circulate the water to around 6 radiators. I ask because...
  14. J

    Low hot water rate occuring constantly in unvented indirect system

    Hi all, I'm hoping one of you may be able to point me in the right direction please. I live in a flat. Have an indirect unvented system (Oso indirect 20 RI) and an Amptec Boiler. There is also underfloor heating present - I notice no issues warming the property. The main problem I have is...
  15. C

    Indirect Unvented cylinder, Combi Boiler and Nest Thermostat

    We have just had an indirect unvented cylinder (250l Vertical Telford Tempest) installed along with a nest v3 thermostat. The plumber was able to modify our existing combi boiler, so it runs like a system boiler. I am trying to understand how it works as currently the plumber has set it to come...
  16. C

    Unvented Indirect Cylinder via Water Softener

    So we have decided for a Telford Tempest Indirect unvented 250l cylinder to be installed - heat up times seemed better than the joule but the main reason was the dimensions (we only have 1.5m height by 2m width) and didn't want to go for a horizontal. One issue we might have is the water...
  17. C

    Joule or Telford Vertical Unvented Indirect Cylinder

    Does any one know how reputable/reliable are Joule and Telford when it comes to their unvented vertical hot water cylinders? We require a 250l vertical cylinder for our basement and our plumber is used to installing Telford Tempest cylinders but read online that Joule may be a better alternative?
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    DROP IN SHOWER FLOW/PRESSURE from Indirect Unvented Cylinder

    Hi We had installed Indirect Unvented Cylinder(300L CentreStore) 3 years ago,as we had poor shower head pressure/flow with our Combi Boiler. Lately we feel the shower flow or pressure has reduced.Previously we could run two or more showers/tap at same time,but nowadays once we have a tap open...
  19. H

    Indirect cylinder heating problems

    Boiler has 28mm pipes to indirect cylinder gravity feed. Pipe exit from boiler is hot (boiler stat no5). Hot water cylinder not hot enough, boiler running 24 hours continuously. Problem only started, previously piping hot. Can only think there is a blockage or restriction in pipe work, but seems...
  20. J

    Unvented cylinder - direct or indirect

    I have differing hot and cold water pressure with my current vented water system so the new mixer tap in the bathroom won't work properly. My plumber advises I convert to an unvented cylinder set up. He also recommends I use a direct cylinder even though I've got gas central heating system. This...
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