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An election with electoral delegates is an election in which voters do not choose between candidates for an office, but elect people who then choose. It is one of the oldest forms of elections, and is used by many countries for heads of state (such as presidents), cabinets, heads of government (such as prime ministers), and/or upper houses. It is also used for some supranational legislatures.
Positions that are indirectly elected may be chosen by a permanent body (such as a parliament) or by a special body convened solely for that purpose (such as an electoral college).
In nearly all cases the body that controls the executive branch (such as a cabinet) is elected indirectly. This includes the cabinets of most parliamentary systems; members of the public elect the parliamentarians, who then elect the cabinet. Upper houses, especially in federal republics, are often indirectly elected, either by the corresponding lower house or cabinet. Similarly, supranational legislatures can be indirectly elected by constituent countries' legislatures or executive governments. The indirect democracy is run by electoral college or president

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    Replacement of indirect vented cylinder with indirect unvented cylinder

    Following completion of plumbing work today I would appreciate any advice on the following two issues : Q1 I have had a 150litre horizontal indirect cylinder (Telford Brand) installed today on an unvented system. After the plumber left I saw the installation instructions which state – “ The...
  2. C

    Central Heating connections to Megaflow unvented indirect cylinder

    I believe the Primary flow and Return and Pipes to my Megaflow cylinder have been connected the wrong way round as the return pipe is much hotter the Primary flow. Will this in any way have a detrimental effect on the operational capabilities of the Megaflow cylinder.
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    Unvented Indirect Cylinder Installation Cost

    Hi new forum member here. Just had a new unvented tempest cylinder installed after replacing old water tank. Supply and installation cost £2500. Is this reasonable?
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    Help! indirect cylinder

    HI, just wondering if someone could explain to me in a simple way if possible how an indirect cylinder heats the water up separately for the radiators and hot water that we have coming form our taps. Cheers
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    Megaflo 145I indirect cylinder

    As title, megaflo cylinder for sale. Cylinder is brand new, unused, and with all supplied fittings, but I'll need to source new packaging for it. Was bought for my system but decided not to have it fitted. Been sat in my airing cupboard for about 10months
  6. C

    Replace vented immersion tank with unvented indirect cylinder?

    My house was built in 1966 as a 2 bed bungalow. An oil-fired Aga with back boiler heated the water in a vented cylinder. The Aga was removed, leaving an immersion heater to heat the tank. A dormer conversion (2 beds and a shower room) was done about 13 years ago by a previous owner, and central...
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    • boiler cylinder feeding immersion indirect mains replace tank unvented vented
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    • Forum: Plumbing Jobs | The Job-board
  7. R

    Which unvented indirect cylinder

    I am looking for some advice on which 150litre indirect invented stainless cylinder to buy. We were going for a Gledhill, but the plumbers merchant is suggesting an Elson Zircon would be as good, but cheaper. Any recommendations on which to buy, or any other better brands would be much...
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    Stopcock on vented indirect cylinder return?

    Hi. I have a vented indirect heating and water system. I have noticed a stopcock on the hot water cylinder return (see red thing in picture below). Can anyone tell me what this stopcock does/is used for? Grateful for any help.
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    Megaflow indirect hot water cylinder.

    Hi, have Megaflo indirect unvented cylinder heated by gas boiler. Have noticed that when mains water stopcock is closed I can still draw hot water from the cylinder. Is this normal or is there a problem with the cylinder?
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    • cylinder empty hot hot water hot water cylinder indirect megaflow running until water
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    • Forum: Plumbing Jobs | The Job-board
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    Running twin impeller pump off indirect hot water without a surrey flange, bad idea?

    Hi all, I'm pretty sure i'm correct here and not going mad but wanted to check before causing problems. My mum is looking to get some bathroom work done and the company she is thinking about appear to be suggesting sighting a twin impeller pump under that bath to feed the shower and taps...
    • Bob Hill
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    • flange hot hot water impeller indirect pump running surrey water without
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    • Forum: Plumbing Jobs | The Job-board
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    Fortic Primatic replacement.

    Can't find some threads on here I saw a while ago so I'll start a new one. Customer had a Primatic combination cylinder (I thought they were only done as regular cylinders) and he wanted a direct replacement. There was some confusion as to whether it can be done or not. You can't get...
  12. M

    economy 7 combi cylinder

    Ive ordered a combi cylinder from Williams today for delivery on Tuesday, however ive realised the one ive ordered is direct. The combi cylinder I need is a 210 litre cylinder with two immersion holes and a coil through which the cold water passes and is heated by the water contained in the...
  13. M

    Indirect cylinder thremostat

    Is it possible to get a thermostat which has a 'tight' temperature switching range? Ours seems to cycle around 4-5 degrees before switching (according to the setting dial) and the water sometimes varies too much in temperature. It would be good to find one that switches on a smaller range.
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    Indirect cylinder recommendations

    Looking to install a 250L stainless indirect cylinder as part of a barn conversion. Any recommendations as to good brands e.g. RM, Main, Santon, Gledhill etc? They all seem well specified these days but do some have better flanges or general construction? Rather pay a few £ more now to ensure...
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    Difference between an unvented direct single coil solar cylinder and an indirect ?

    Hi all. I have a customer who has bought a Potterton direct single coil solar unvented cylinder which was to be connected to a solar panel. The situation has changed and now wants it to be fitted at another property to a central heating system. I have called Potterton to see if this is ok and...
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    • between cylinder difference direct indirect oil single solar unvented
    • Replies: 1
    • Forum: Plumbing Jobs | The Job-board
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    Tribune HE 180 indirect problem

    Hi Looking for a bit of advice, in a 4 year old new build with a Potterton promax SL boiler and Tribune HE 180 indirect water tank. The water tank always sounds as though it is in operation even when the boiler is not on. The electric immersion switch is also switched off. The pump is always...
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    New Indirect Hot Water Cylinder Connection Leaking

    Yesterday I had a very frustrating day installing a new indirect hot water cylinder which the customer had bought from Screwfix. There were six connections in total (cold feed, boiler flow & return, Surrey flange with feed to shower and DHW) and, as is the usually the case, every connection...
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    indirect

    if im putting a unvented cylinder in a cv site toilet block do I need to get a solar coil one? his plan is to put solars on roof in a few years, no other means of heating , only immersion . will a standard indirect cylinder do ? or does it have to be a solar one??
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    no hot water from indirect tank .help needed

    hi,all I have an indirect unvented tank for hot water, but no hot water getting to coil inside,system boiler, heating all else,underfloor heating,no motorised valves, I have drained system,disconnected coil put a hose inside coil and flushed,refilled system, removed air, no success. any ideas...
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    Advise on Fernox F1 ( Is this Suitable for my system ? )

    I have just read the instructions on the bottle and it states this is "not suitable for single feed Indirect Cylinders" My system is an open vented system run from a Vaillant 438 System Boiler I have 1 Hot water Tank heated through a "Y" Plan and approx 13 Rads Is this product suitable for...
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