15mm glued Plastic pipe & fittings

[jono]

Hi Guys

Hoping someone can help. Came across a house in Devon completely plumbed with glued 15mm PVC type hard plastic pipe. (The lady wanted a basin replacing) The tap connectors were brass/copper imbedded in a plastic pipe connector, the pipe and fittings are white, with '15mm made in uk' smudged on the only bit exposed. Question is can you still source parts for this stuff or is it a total plumbing replacement job ?

Cheers in advance

Jono

 

[Paulplumb]

Could you add some pictures of the pipe please Jono?

 

[jono]

Hi Paul
Now your asking, I'll try and work out how to attach 3 photos I took on my phone. It might be a while.

Cheers
Jono

 

[jono]

Hi Paul
Hope these 3 photos appear, Ill explain further if they do.

Cheers

Jono

 

[1Steven]

Used to work on glued plastic years back, pan in the bot! Needs 24 hrs to set. So be very careful. I would not get involved with it in domestic properties asking for trouble

 

[Paulplumb]

Sorry Jono I dont recognise it. I am sure a forum member will be along to identify it soon enough

 

[jono]

Thanks for that, sorry the pictures came out upside down. The iso is on the feed to the plastic wc cistern which I ripped out, I was able to attach a flexi to the existing comp fitting but theres no way I can fit a new basin on the existing pipework.
I suspected this gear was obsolete and I'm guessing its coming to the end of its life.
If she wants this new basin it will have to be a whole house re-plumb ! I might give it a miss.

Cheers

Jono

 

[Last Plumber]

Try pipeline Center, Ashworth Frazers, BSS group etc.

 

[Fallon1982]

I would avoid it like the plague. Found houses with it on this local estate. I maybe wrong but I think its called alkathene or something. You would need a pipe specialist to source it for you and its not cheap.

 

[stani]

It's not alkathene, one used to be Acorn, can't think of the others, but as above try plumbcenter locally they should be able to source, and they do need 24 ish hours, just make sure it's clean glued, or use a transition coupling to copper if you have somewhere to hide one.

 

[stani]

Possibly polyorc or durapipe

 

[Stoney Ground]

Possibly polyorc or durapipe

Used durapipe around Bracknell, though that was black.

A lot of properties had that and stainless steel.

Try local independent they may be better than national suppliers as buyers understand local issues.
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[Chalked]

You can get adaptors ( compression) from here.
Plumbing & Water Industry Supplies | Products

 

[stani]

That's handy, never seen an adapter just had to use things like Philmac transition which are massive.

 

[jono]

Thanks Chalked
I don't think it's Polyorc as it's 15mm, I wouldn't chance 1/2" compression on old pvc in a hidden void, I think the custard is going to have it all replaced at some time. No point trying to clamp on new to old, all sorts of problems bouncing back to age me even more.
Cheers
Jono

 

[wiggers]

It's actually made by a company no longer around "hunter genova" I work on an estate by me with over 700 houses full of this.
I've been using a coupler by john guest and it's worked fine up to now it's a 15mm to 1/2 inch
May have to order in as not used very much good luck!

 

[tamz]

Never seen that stuff before but 15mm is 15mm no matter what its made of so just stick an insert in it, whatever type fits best, and shove a pushfit on it. It will be fine.
Either that or rip the lot out.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

i know it wont look good but a safe option is a philmac transition coupling if there planning on ripping out later down the line

 

[tolly]

Never seen that stuff before but 15mm is 15mm no matter what its made of so just stick an insert in it, whatever type fits best, and shove a pushfit on it. It will be fine.
Either that or rip the lot out.

If it jumps off you wont have much of a leg to stand on though tamz?

 

[jtsplumbing]

Used durapipe around Bracknell, though that was black.

A lot of properties had that and stainless steel.

Try local independent they may be better than national suppliers as buyers understand local issues.
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That small Plumbers shop Ball-Cock and bits In Bracknell used to do the adaptor's and glue for it Poly-York Have come across some of this in Saltash , Need to be very careful with it go's brittle over the years and starts to snap off .

 

[tamz]

If it jumps off you wont have much of a leg to stand on though tamz?

Theres more chance of me winning the lottery than it ever jumping off.
Its a 15mm pipe made to BS tolerances. Exactly the same diameter pipe down to the baw hair as every other 15mm pipe in the country no matter if it is made by yorkshire, speedfit, hep, polypipe, flowplast or hunter. Its not going to jump off.

 

[1Steven]

Theres more chance of me winning the lottery than it ever jumping off.
Its a 15mm pipe made to BS tolerances. Exactly the same diameter pipe down to the baw hair as every other 15mm pipe in the country no matter if it is made by yorkshire, speedfit, hep, polypipe, flowplast or hunter. Its not going to jump off.

It's like putting a wedding ring on an eggshell! It does not have an insert. Was designed for new build, quick install and don't look back! Try telling a nursing home you need to turn the water off for twenty four hours while the glue sets. Before the push on adapter's