Advice Needed on New Boiler Quote

[Mark Eastwood]

I've received a quote for 3 different boilers and would like some advice on which one I should go for please. The current boiler is in an upstairs bedroom and the flu vents through the roof via the loft space.

1, Baxi Duo-tec 28kw combi £2145 (fully installed)
2, Ideal Logic + 30kw combi £2195 (fully installed)
3, Worcester Greenstar 29CDi classic gas combi £2645 (fully installed)

All above quotes include flu pack, magnetic filter and internet controllable thermostat (all with 7yr warranty). Grateful for any advice as I want to know if the Worcester is worth the extra.
Thanks Mark

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Me personally I would bin the ideal had a few things wrong with them

Me personally I would go with the 29 classic

Does the price include a system clean / flush ?

 

[townfanjon]

Duo-tec for me , price ok IMO

 

[woodsy]

Duo tec for me, good workhorse. Like the Ideal but one or two issues which would make me avoid. Worcester ok but for me overpriced mediocrity.

 

[DGT plumbing]

Worcester any day of the week for me and price seems good considering the roof work involved. I wouldn't even consider the Ideal and I'm surprised the Ideal comes out more than the Baxi.

 

[Mark Eastwood]

Me personally I would bin the ideal had a few things wrong with them

Me personally I would go with the 29 classic

Does the price include a system clean / flush ?

Yes, it includes a flush. Thanks for your help.

 

[Old Account]

For me Worcester even though the after care is bad IMO. But wouldn’t go without weather compensation control to be honest. I’d also would consider upgrading to thermostatic radiator valves if you haven’t done yet.

 

[king of pipes]

If your on a budget my choice would be the Baxi duo tec and fit the 33kw over the 28kw it gives a extra litre a minute on hotwater delivery 13.8 litres a minute and 28kw on the heating load more than enough to run a 8 - 10 rad system , i have fitted all the boilers above and out of all of them its baxi thats my choice .cheers kop

 

[Gasmk1]

of the 3 makes i would go with a taxi but like king of pipes says go for 33Kw

 

[Gasmk1]

Baxi

 

[hammers4spanner]

Baxi here as well.
As already said how is the ideal more expensive?

 

[firemant]

Baxi for me. Although, arguably, a bit noisier in operation.

 

[Mark Eastwood]

Duo tec for me, good workhorse. Like the Ideal but one or two issues which would make me avoid. Worcester ok but for me overpriced mediocrity.

If your on a budget my choice would be the Baxi duo tec and fit the 33kw over the 28kw it gives a extra litre a minute on hotwater delivery 13.8 litres a minute and 28kw on the heating load more than enough to run a 8 - 10 rad system , i have fitted all the boilers above and out of all of them its baxi thats my choice .cheers kop

Thanks for the advice. It's an old house and the 1st quoter said my gas pipes might not be able to support a boiler over 29kw without upgrading them. Is that something I need to consider?

 

[Mark Eastwood]

For me Worcester even though the after care is bad IMO. But wouldn’t go without weather compensation control to be honest. I’d also would consider upgrading to thermostatic radiator valves if you haven’t done yet.

Thanks. Yes we already have the thermostatic valves on the rads.

 

[king of pipes]

You will need a 28mm supply it really depends on length of the supply and if you have any other gas appliances your installer will be able to guide you i would upgrade it why do half a job , cheers kop

 

[heatservice]

Out of the 3 I would chose the Ideal but get a quote for a Glow Worm as a lot less plastic than a Worcester, less leaks than a Baxi and is virtually a Vaillant but a few hundred £s cheaper.

 

[heatservice]

For me Worcester even though the after care is bad IMO. But wouldn’t go without weather compensation control to be honest. I’d also would consider upgrading to thermostatic radiator valves if you haven’t done yet.

Thought you had to fit TRV's to meet current regs and after April even more, o/s temp comp or a flue gas heat recovery or a load compensator which I think is a SMART control eg Hive, Nest etc

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thought you had to fit TRV's to meet current regs and after April even more, o/s temp comp or a flue gas heat recovery or a load compensator which I think is a SMART control eg Hive, Nest etc

Nope still not mandatory

 

[heatservice]

Nope still not mandatory

I just googled it and the government removed the requirement to fit TRV's when a boiler is replaced from part L of the building regs in 2006, big mistake IMO.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I just googled it and the government removed the requirement to fit TRV's when a boiler is replaced from part L of the building regs in 2006, big mistake IMO.

Yep muppets

 

[Harvest Fields]

I think TRV’s are more important than weather comp
Also I would get a quote for a Vaillant ECOTEC PRO

 

[Old Account]

I think TRV’s are more important than weather comp
Also I would get a quote for a Vaillant ECOTEC PRO

Trv saving 5% on annual gas bill

 

[hammers4spanner]

Trv saving 5% on annual gas bill

Is this proven ??
Everything you hear new eco pump save 5 % Eco rads save money blah blah blah .

Wit all this so called saving why am I paying anything at all ??

 

[Old Account]

https://www.imi-hydronic.com/sites/...ts/new-products/eclipse-trv/Pages/Videos.aspx

Is this proven ??
Everything you hear new eco pump save 5 % Eco rads save money blah blah blah .

Wit all this so called saving why am I paying anything at all ??

To be honest with you, there are few factors to consider. They always tell you things in the ideal world. You require pipe insulation throughout, insulate the floor, insulate the out or inside walls etc. I would not install a new system without having trvs. Especially not without those eclipse trvs these are top quality

 

[Old Account]

They also do a low loss headers with integrated filter and deaerator which is a fanstatic piece of kit.

 

[Mark Eastwood]

Thanks for all the advice, this has really helped me in an area I know nothing about, so very appreciated. My plumber has said the 33Kw Baxi benefits would depend on an excellent water pressure but will fit (I have no idea how good our pressure is). It's only £125 more then the 28Kw, so worth a try. Thanks again!

 

[heatservice]

I've fitted so many fuel saving gadgets that my meter has started going in reverse...........

 

[jwintermedia]

I had a baxi (the start up noises were unreal) changed to WB - loud, noises, plastic makes a lot of noise. Mum has an ideal for a smaller house and she likes the simplicity of it.

If I had my time again. I'd go hard, heavy and something with a load of metal!

 

[Harvest Fields]

I had a baxi (the start up noises were unreal) changed to WB - loud, noises, plastic makes a lot of noise. Mum has an ideal for a smaller house and she likes the simplicity of it.

If I had my time again. I'd go hard, heavy and something with a load of metal!

Guns ‘n’ Roses or old school METALICA?

 

[king of pipes]

Fitted loads of the Baxi duo tecs with only a handful any failures back up is good and although slightly old technology its proven and reliable no noiser than any other boiler , i had one in my own home for 12 years . cheers kop

 

[Mark Eastwood]

The Baxi has been in for a while now and I'm very happy with it. Yes it's a bit noisy but nothing too bad. Very efficient and takes cold rads to piping hot in about 5 mins. Thanks again for all the advice Great site.

 

[king of pipes]

Glad your happy bud did you go for the 33kw ?

 

[Mark Eastwood]

The Baxi has been in for a while now and I'm very happy with it. Yes it's a bit noisy but nothing too bad. Very efficient and takes cold rads to piping hot in about 5 mins. Thanks again for all the advice Great site.

Glad your happy bud did you go for the 33kw ?

Yes I did. No doubt overkill for our house but the water from the taps and shower remain very hot even with a high flow rate (much better than the old boiler).