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  1. harrygashull

    harrygashull GSR

    I have an install in a church, all fairly straight forward stuff however the client isnt keen on a proper bms system and VT circuits...

    Whats the worst case scenario if I dont fit vt circuits and a full bms system?

    I get the impression they simply cant afford the additional cost.

    They are also looking at UFCH next year so the VT circuits would likely be changed next year anyway.. so would be almost a temporary setup.
     
  2. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    How big of an install / system are we looking at
     
  3. harrygashull

    harrygashull GSR

    200Kw - 1 hw zone, 2 ch zones
     
  4. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    What boiler you looking at ?
    Also pump amp ratings?
     
  5. harrygashull

    harrygashull GSR

    5 x 40Cdi Classic Regulars
    1 x Grundfos MAGNA3 D 40-80F (0.2-1.2 A)
    1 x Grundfos MAGNA 3 D 32-40 (0.09 - 0.61 A)
    1 x Grundfos MAGNA 3 25-40 (0.09 - 0.46 A)
     
  6. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Why 5 boilers ??? You do know you can get 100 plus kw boilers ?

    That's the part your going to struggle with
     
  7. harrygashull

    harrygashull GSR

    Yes I know, the problem is that they have 3 boilers currently all of which they let break down... cost prohibitive to get 3 reasonable quality commercial boilers...

    What makes you say 5 boilers will struggle?
     
  8. harrygashull

    harrygashull GSR

    Tried to push them to get three GB162’s but werent interested
     
  9. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Because your going to need a 5 port sequencer for w and t also modulation

    Also at over 7.5kw for the boilers I'm sure you will be able to get two 120kw Viessmann 200 boilers for less even with rubbish terms
     
  10. harrygashull

    harrygashull GSR

    I know that!
    I know about the controls side of things, Iv already suggested this but like I say a full bms system is going to cost a lot which they are not keen on.

    Can I simply get them to sign a waiver?
     
  11. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Sign a waiver to what the system won't work and boilers won't hand over / share the work
     
  12. harrygashull

    harrygashull GSR

    The system will work? Just in a very basic manner.
     
  13. harrygashull

    harrygashull GSR

    Im literally on about installing it in a domestic manner in a commercial enviroment
     
  14. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Well it won't as there's too many boilers one or two will have the most load / working time on them
     
  15. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Which won't work

    If you want to keep it simple install one or two boilers

    One for the heating load and another just for hot water

    Are you commercially qualified?
     
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