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  1. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    Hi,

    I'm a woman with zero knowledge on DIY and plumbing so I'm in desperate need of help!

    We have a really old toilet and it wouldn't flush so my father messed around in the cistern and it now flushes but water is leaking out of what I believe is the outlet pipe outside of the house and we're having to empty a bucket of water every day.

    Can anyone please give me any advice or am I best ringing a local plumber?

    Thanks,
    Lisa
     
  2. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    The water level may be too high inside the cistern. Any chance of a picture of inside the cistern?
     
  3. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    I'm at work at the moment but I'll take one when I get home. Thanks!
     
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  4. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    That's the leak!

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  5. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    There you go, thanks
     
  6. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    IMG_2136.JPG

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  7. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Water lever too high or needs a new washer

    Flush the toilet

    Turn the bolt / screw in more

    One or two full turns should sort it out if not a new washer is needed

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  8. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    Thanks. Sadly I can't shift the bolt and don't have any tools
     
  9. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Sorry to say you only have one option get a pro in and replace the whole valve
     
  10. snowhead

    snowhead Well-Known Member

    The nylon bolt with the steel nut on it has a slot on the end.

    Get a wide ended knife (or a flat blade screwdriver would be better..)
    Flush the toilet so the float drops and takes the pressure off the screw.
    Then use the knife to twist the screw inwards so the nut gets closer to the black nylon arm.
     
  11. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    Thanks for your help anyway. Hopefully this isn't going to cost me too much!!! :eek:
     
  12. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    Thanks. Will try this
     
  13. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Cheers mate had no signal to respond;)
     
  14. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    Shame you're not local :(
     
  15. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Yep. Sorry. I am sure that there are plenty of good engineers up north.
     
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  16. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    Thanks a lot for your help. It's much appreciated :)
     
  17. rpm

    rpm Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    Can`t dad come back and make the adjustment Lisa?
     
  18. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Knowing my family she didn't want Dad to mess with it in the first place ;);)
     
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  19. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    He said he doesn't know how to fix it and has no time. I don't know what he has done. Before it wouldn't flush and I had to constantly push on the handle several times to get it to flush. That problem has been fixed but now we're left with the leak from the pipe outside. The toilet and whole bathroom suite are extremely old but my Mam doesn't want to change it :mad:
     
  20. rpm

    rpm Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    Neighbour? If all goes to plan we are talking small flatblade screwdriver and turn the screw in a couple of turns - 5 minutes. Oh and a towel to dry hands.
     
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  21. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    I'll have to raid my Mam's toolbox! If that doesn't work and I need a new washer and/or valve, will it be expensive?
     
  22. LisaM1983

    LisaM1983 New Member

    Look at the state of it! 1960's at least!

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  23. rpm

    rpm Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

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  24. Best

    Best Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    That ain't a 1960s bathroom suite!
    I used to fit same as that one in various horrible colours in the 1980s.
    Looks all in good condition and could last many more years. Probably more reliable than a brand new suite and the poor functioning and malfunctioning of all this push button rubbish.

    RPM, - I agree, that is a really good valve! Takes a while to get used to installing them, I think the threaded arm can be easily fitted incorrectly, but once you know then it is a decent valve to use.
     
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  25. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    colour ?
     
  26. rpm

    rpm Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    Avocado was popular then
     
  27. rpm

    rpm Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    After having 2 Fluidmasters fail I tried something different Best.
    Think I've been converted tbh.
     
  28. Best

    Best Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    Yea, you are correct to always keep looking for something better.
     
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  29. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    how did they fail?
     
  30. rpm

    rpm Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    Wouldnt close
     
  31. ShaunCorbs

    ShaunCorbs S. Mod Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    new?
     
  32. Best

    Best Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    Really not sure. I do know Burgundy was similar and actually looked okay compared to some colours then. Could be that and if kept spotless it wasn't too bad
    I am hopeless with colours and especially fancy stupid names for different shades.
    I remember Pampas, Harvest Gold, Sky Blue, Peach, Champagne, Primrose, Indian Ivory.
    Some of those were before the 80s
     
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  33. rpm

    rpm Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    Yep
     
  34. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    New ones???
    Sorry phone only just updated
     
  35. Chuck

    Chuck Active Member

    That red cone that someone has wedged in to stop the blue float touching the side is a problem. It needs removing and the whole float valve assembly rotating anticlockwise a few degrees so the float is not touching anything.

    IIRC the original float valve assembly for that type of (Armitage Shanks?) cistern was brass and, because brass is tougher than plastic, it was smaller and had a much easier fit with better clearances.

    While your plumber is at it, mention the unreliable flushing. It's a couple of minutes work to fit a new diaphragm as part of the job.
     
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