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  1. malc

    malc Member

    Hi, anyone got a 100% safe way of connecting pan to soil pipe, on these pans that have sides that go flush to wall.? thanks.
     
  2. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Flexible pan connector maybe.
     
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  3. JCplumb

    JCplumb Plumber

    This is how I do it if possible, I sometimes will use a flexi waste but I don't like to if I can help it.
    You have to measure a lot(then measure again) and make sure that the rigid pipework with pan connector already inserted will not move when you push your perfectly measured pan up to it. A bit of water soluble lube - liquid soap etc. not something like silicone grease on the pan spigot will help too. You want the lube to dissapear or dry up after fitting.
    Mark your centres and pan sides so that you are always perfectly lined up.
    When you cut your soil pipe make it a bit too long - so that the pan doesn't quite touch the wall then shave the bit off needed to allow it. It's an extra cut but it's how I do it with confidence. As long as you have a good line on your soil pipe I find a multi tool a good choice to cut soil pipe, then de-burr the inside edge.
    I'll also try to choose a pan that has fixing holes going down so that I don't have to lift the pan over the plastic fixing things.
     
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  4. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    I agree with above. But you cannot always do this. Which is why I said a flexi. Not perfect but will do a job.
     
  5. Best

    Best Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    I like JCplumbs idea of making the soil pipe too long and trying the pan into place, so to know next cut will be accurate. I do it that way often.
    Not sure why no silicone for lube though? I prefer it for being able to remove toilet in the future.
     
  6. moonlight

    moonlight Plumber GSR

    Sometime they slip off ;)
     
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  7. Best

    Best Trusted Plumber Top Contributor!!

    That's only if your spigot is too small. ;)
     
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  8. malc

    malc Member

    Thanks for replies guys, i know its quite a simple problem to get over but didn`t really want to use flexi, just wondered if anyone had come across a new fool proof fitting or method. thanks again.
     
  9. Harvest Fields

    Harvest Fields Trusted Plumber GSR Top Contributor!!

    Afternoon, the only reason that I suggested a flexi was that I do not know what set up you had, hence the maybe at the end of the reply. If you can adjust the existing pipe that you have and make a rigid snug fit then obviously this is a much better option. But I have fitted toilets where this is not always possible. Hope all goes well for you.
     
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  10. YorkshireDave

    YorkshireDave Member

    I never use silicone for connections as many pans (mainly chinese manufacture - including British brands .) have spigots that are slightly tapered. After rotten experiences I ALWAYS use, as suggested, something that will eventually dry out.
     
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  11. JCplumb

    JCplumb Plumber

    There's no right or wrong if it works. I use flexis, they're brill if the spigot and pipe aren't properly aligned.
    As yorkshire Dave says, Chinese imports sometimes mean you have to make sure there's no room for the pan connector to slip off.
    You make your decision when you have eyes on it.
     
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  12. vinniethecat

    vinniethecat Member

    I refuse to have anything to do with those abortions... no access to anything.

    The only thing to do with an existing one is replace it with a sensible model.
     
  13. moonlight

    moonlight Plumber GSR

    I try not to do bathrooms, I don't tile and I don't do carpentry. Well except for the odd tile and floor boards. Concealed toilets are a pain in the ..;).

    More money in boilers anyway.
     
  14. Phil

    Phil Plumber

    These closed back WC's are best fitted with a Mcalpine flexi connector with a jubilee clip type pan con end, I turn the pan unside down and after I've tighend the band I Caulk the joint with silicone. Not loads but I know it will never leak so no need to worry.
     
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