Vaillant ecoTEC Plus 624 with VRC470f to HIVE?

[sh4d0w]

Hello all,


I am really hoping for some help and advice on a little predicament i find myself in.


2 years back we moved into the house, i ripped the pre-historic heating system out and with the help of my brother we fitted a new system adopting the 624 with two zones, Upstairs and Down stairs and also an Albion Hot water store.


Ever since, the upstairs has been a bit of a pain in the bum in that some of the rads have a mind of their own and we often find them not heating but there is no air in the rad and doesn't appear to be any blocks, if i shut the rest off via the TRV i can push the hot water to the rads that are not working etc. Also, the upstairs Zone doesn't appear to work independently as per schedule set on my stat, For EG,
UPS Zone - comes on at 6AM goes off at 8AM
DWS Zone - comes on at 7AM and goes of at 8AM


what happens is that both zones come on at the same time!


If i put my UPS Zone to Party mode and turn the stat up it does indeed come on alone!


SO, as you can guess, it is most frustrating and i just cant get it working, so many other bits on the stat that i dont know what to set so its just all been a bit of trial and error and what plumber mates have tried IE Heat Curves.


Having been at a British Gas Engineer mates house last night and him showing me his Hive system, i am VERY impressed with it and what it has to offer, so much more functionality to the 470 i have now; user facing.


What i am asking is this:


A) Has anyone moved from a 470 to a smart heating system such as HIVE - how have you found it?


B) Am i taking a backwards step by moving away from the 470 to a system such as HIVE?


C) How would i manage the other settings and see boiler stats if i dont have the 470?


Any help will be massively appreciated.


Martin

 

[Chalked]

I like Vaillant boilers. But the 470 is over complicated and difficult to use. It weather compensates quite well, but for me. I'm not sure what saving it makes. As your hot water cylinder will make the boiler Fire up on full rate.
I'm not a great fan of hive either. ( even though my own brother and team did the software) it was made for the U.S. market to gather data, as to when we are in and using gas/electric.
It is still used to gather data, but it's not sinister.
My reccomedation, would be to go for hard wired Heatmiser Neostats. You would need two thermostats One fitted on each floor, and one hot water timer. The app is very intuative, and they all have easy manual controls too.

 

[sh4d0w]

Thank you for your time and reply.

Just wanted to add some future notes on this.
Initially i had bought:
ecoTEC Plus 624
VR66 Control Centre
VRT 50 Digital Room Thermostat
VRC 470F Digital Wireless Weather compensator

the plan was to have the VRT 50 upstairs on the landing and the 470 downstairs.

Having had some issues with the system with the above items and not being able to get it all working i spoke to a few chaps and called Vaillant technical to be told i could not do what i intended with the kit i bought and i actually need to buy other items, So my system is built up of the following:

ecoTEC Plus 624 - stored in my extension loft
VR81 on the landing hard wired to;
VR61 in landing cupboard
VRC 470F downstairs

3 Honeywell zone valves all hard wired into my VR61 - i will take some pics of cabling later to see if anyone can help with that.


My Ho****er store is also on the 470 stat and calls for heat per sced. i dont know if that changes things?