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no you cannot😱
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moore
no mate, youll have to be Gas Safe for that - i know it sounds simple, bayonet off-bayonet on, but ive just paid someone a hundred quid to fit one for me on a kitchen i was installing , and i watched him check at the gas entry to the house, - he checked for pressure drop with his gauge, and then checked rings etc....he didnt need a stability chain, as cooker was massive, so would call someone local in with their Gas ticket - by the way, i think that if you wanted to be gas safe, you can do it in stages, or levels, whereby if its only cookers you do (like me) you can just get qual/gas ticket for cookers - im looking into it myself - good luck helpsy
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newbie1
not in stages or levels
the core ccn1 is the biggy then the elements
the core ccn1 is the biggy then the elements
i was told anyone can disconnect but need gas safe to reconnect sill realy as just as likley to get a dodgy seal when dissing
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andytheplumber
If you disconnect and re connect any gas appliance you need to do a gas tightness test to make sure there is no gas leak.The problem with cookers is when you push the cooker back you put pressure on and move the cooker hose. If it is a compression fitting.these can move slightly causing a gas leak. You would never know if it is safe untill you carried out a gas tightness test.
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tamz
You do NOT need an RGI to plug/unplug a cooker from a bayonet. The connection of a flexi to a cooker and the subsequent installation DOES need an RGI.
The use of a flexi in the first instance is to allow the movement or disconnection of the appliance from the supply by the end user.
Is anyone really thinking when Mrs Housewife wants to drag the cooker out to clean behind it she should call on the services of a RGI to remove it?
Any doubters please quote from the relevant BS.
The use of a flexi in the first instance is to allow the movement or disconnection of the appliance from the supply by the end user.
Is anyone really thinking when Mrs Housewife wants to drag the cooker out to clean behind it she should call on the services of a RGI to remove it?
Any doubters please quote from the relevant BS.
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Puddle
There are exceptions to regs to allow cooker to be removed by owner ,non reg gas plumber but as steve says however it does not give them exception to replace/refit
Basically it is thought ,can be removed ok,even though some would comment on maybe bayonet weeping
But can not refit as not qualified to say/know if installation safe
By disconnecting,they may inadvertently removed from a dangerous installation,so no problem,however would/could be,if they reconnected
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2. Removal work
2.1 Removal of Domestic Gas fittings and Domestic Appliances in a Domestic
Premise:
The 2006 Act and subsequent Regulation make it clear that only an RGI is permitted to
disconnect and/or remove domestic appliances and gas fittings (gas works). Such work
must be carried out in accordance with I.S. 813. An exception to this requirement is in
circumstances where the disconnection of the domestic appliance does not require the
use of a tool. For example, a cooker or an outside barbeque is usually fitted with a
flexible connection and a self-closing valve. These may be disconnected by the user for
cleaning and storage respectively.
Basically it is thought ,can be removed ok,even though some would comment on maybe bayonet weeping
But can not refit as not qualified to say/know if installation safe
By disconnecting,they may inadvertently removed from a dangerous installation,so no problem,however would/could be,if they reconnected
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2. Removal work
2.1 Removal of Domestic Gas fittings and Domestic Appliances in a Domestic
Premise:
The 2006 Act and subsequent Regulation make it clear that only an RGI is permitted to
disconnect and/or remove domestic appliances and gas fittings (gas works). Such work
must be carried out in accordance with I.S. 813. An exception to this requirement is in
circumstances where the disconnection of the domestic appliance does not require the
use of a tool. For example, a cooker or an outside barbeque is usually fitted with a
flexible connection and a self-closing valve. These may be disconnected by the user for
cleaning and storage respectively.
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tamz
Where does it state in regs or BS that this cannot be done by the end user?
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Puddle
Thats the point,it does not mention they can reconnect it,which has been deemed to mean they can not 🙁
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tamz
And for reconnection?
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Puddle
You need to get a gas safe plumber in officially
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tamz
I'll agree with you on that one😉
S
sas
If its a self sealing/closing valve then you can take it off and see it yourself that gas will not flow. Thats why its called self sealing valve
B
Blackcatgas
The new cooker will come without the flex connected, youd need to make that in to the new cooker, not somthing Id recomend that you do your self.
also you cant really test its integrety without doing a drop test on the gas meter with the new cooker conected.
also you cant really test its integrety without doing a drop test on the gas meter with the new cooker conected.
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Bernie2
You can usually do gas work in your own home if your deemed competent to do it and your prepared to take responsibility for it.
I imagine to be deemed competent one has to have had some kind of training to know what gas competent means.
I suppose in practical terms its designed to stop people who see a gas pipe as just a pipe and connect it up any old way because they know no different.
But I doubt a fitter whose acs had lapsed on a Monday would be deemed incompetent to fit their own cooker on a Tuesday.
I imagine to be deemed competent one has to have had some kind of training to know what gas competent means.
I suppose in practical terms its designed to stop people who see a gas pipe as just a pipe and connect it up any old way because they know no different.
But I doubt a fitter whose acs had lapsed on a Monday would be deemed incompetent to fit their own cooker on a Tuesday.
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RW Gas Services
Absolutely no way at all.If you do this then you are breaking the law.The only people that can do this are Gas Safe registered engineers.
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prs1
No someone who holds a curret ACS is allowed in his own home to carryout gas work as puddle has said u dont need to be gsr showing copetance by holding an acs cert is all that is required.
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migoplumber
mark, its a just a big hoohaa, good reading though
not untill something goes wrong,how would you prove you had followed the correct procedures?tickles me when peeps think messing around with a potential time bomb is not a problem.save some dollar,let them carry on😛
Ahh I see, I see.
I agree about it being a time bomb etc and I would never advise someone to DIY it!! However the unfortunate thing is they are allowed.
Someone was telling me a few weeks ago they were asked for their Gas Safe no. When buying a FSD at B&Q, however they did not have to produce one when buying a boiler!! Madness!!
Mark
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kirkgas
its the same as saying you dont need to be a mechanic to change the brakes on your car, nobody can stop you but its not very clever doing it in case something goes wrong, i'm not against DIY and have done tons of it over the years, some small some very big, i have also fixed things on cars over the years, like electric window motors, fitted radios, renewed electric ariels, if anything went wrong my kids wouldnt die, i would never mess with the brakes or anything else that was for safety and could harm my wifeor kids or anyone else caught up in an accident while they were in the car
thats the difference beteween some DIY and gas DIY
thats the difference beteween some DIY and gas DIY
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