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[stuart_craigon]

Hi All, just looking for some advice here.

I'm hoping to take over a 3 story, 6 bed (all doubles) guest house with 4 showers and all have wash hand basins in the rooms.

I'm just wondering what the best thing to do with the heating and hot water is. I'm getting a local trading standards registered plumber (council reputable trader scheme) round to quote but I'm not sure what to be asking for.

I thinking about one of the following:

1. A keston "Rig" with two C55 boilers and two 300L cylinders with one boiler feeding both the cylinders and the other boiler feeding the central heating.

2. One Keston C55 feeding central heating ONLY and an andrews water heater feeding hot water.

3. Multiple W.B combi boilers capable of feeding a bathroom or two and "Zone" the heating.

Mathematically the last option is the cheapest however option 2 is the simplest to install.

The biggest issue is that it has to be installed in the basement because that where the currant boiler is. The problem is that access is very tight and I am concerned that yes ideally option 1 would be the best because it is all set up and plumbed up it is just a case of linking it to the gas main, water main and heating flow and return and H.w flow and it's good to go, but it would have to be taken to bits to get it in because of the access limits.

What do i do and what are the suggestions.

Thanks guys

Stuart

 

[Mbear]

Stuart mate, I'm speaking from experience here, DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT fit Kestons in ur place. They are terrible terrible boilers, you will have countless callouts to repair them. I for one hate working on them, I would never recommend anyone ever buying a keston.

A large unvented hw storage cylinder should see to you hw needs, 2 zone valves so you can have hw & ch independantly or together. You could make more zones when it comes to the heating, ie zone 1 - ground floor, zone 2 - 1st floor, it'll save you money if you only want heat only certain floors obviously

 

[Blackcatgas]

Stuart mate, I'm speaking from experience here, DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT fit Kestons in ur place. They are terrible terrible boilers, you will have countless callouts to repair them. I for one hate working on them, I would never recommend anyone ever buying a keston.

A large unvented hw storage cylinder should see to you hw needs, 2 zone valves so you can have hw & ch independantly or together. You could make more zones when it comes to the heating, ie zone 1 - ground floor, zone 2 - 1st floor, it'll save you money if you only want heat only certain floors obviously

Agree with mbear, why Keston?.

 

[stevetheplumber]

if you want a keeston c55 cheap theres one sitting in my lock up which was only used for 3 weeks and removed due to a planning problem make me a sensible offer and its yours

 

[stuart_craigon]

Thanks very much guys. Really appreciate the advice. I'll have a chat with the plumber on Friday and see what he suggests, I have a feeling it will be the same as what you guys have said. Are "Ideal" boilers any better? Thinking W100 (100 kw) and an Andrews water heater WHC56, would that be enough?

Then again I might just use W.B. How many do you think I'd need for this? I know that they're good and I could just get a cylinder or two.

Thanks again.

Meant to ask as well, would the "Drayton" LP range of programmers work with both of these units? If so which one should I get?

 

[Mbear]

Ideals are not bad, better an ideal than a keston. My personal preferences would be a suitably sized baxi or worcester. As for acl well I quite like their products, they are not the most expensive but I like working with acl controls, easy to use/install/replace/simple setting up when the time comes. I would get an acl 2 channel programmer, acl zone valves, acl hw & ch stats.

Plz don't encourage keston by buying their products, it'll only result in them thinking they make good appliances and they'll carry on designing more crappy boilers. IMHO

hope that's helped

 

[migoplumber]

a nice install, would be 2 or 3 system boilers, linked together, from the link feed off to your heating, ( maybe several 2 port valves, governing each floor, depending on occupancy) and also from your link feed of to your dhw storage.
make sure cylinders can be linked, and isolated again depending on occupancy, and lower demands.
get your instalation sized correctly, and peak demand will be important in your case.
choose your boilers and cylinders wisely !?

good luck

 

[Plucky]

a nice install, would be 2 or 3 system boilers, linked together, from the link feed off to your heating, ( maybe several 2 port valves, governing each floor, depending on occupancy) and also from your link feed of to your dhw storage.
make sure cylinders can be linked, and isolated again depending on occupancy, and lower demands.
get your instalation sized correctly, and peak demand will be important in your case.
choose your boilers and cylinders wisely !?

good luck

Agree with Migo,

Couple of WB 40 CDi's into a header and take off your feeds for cylinder for heating and cylinder from here.