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When you get idiots like the muppet that installed this central heating system.

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Why bother cutting out separate joists when you can just plonk heating pipework directly on top of electrical cables. Got called to the house as the electrics where tripping. After fixing a leaking cistern and pointing out that more of the water from the shower was going down behind the bath than into the waste, I found this today.

The cables had melted, one of them right down to the line conductor which was in contact with the copper pipework on the heating system. This was constantly tripping the electrics (thank god they had RCDs). The electricity along the pipework filled with water had also caused lots of pinhole corrosion along a 2m length of said pipework. This had caused water to leak (rather interestingly) down the live conductor that was exposed and actually through the twin and earth cable and out the light fitting in the hall.

Fantastic workmanship all round really. Still got me a good day's wages today fixing their heating and electrics but quite serious in that if that RCD hadn't been working the female tenant or her two kids could have fried on a radiator!
 
Bloomin' Nora!

Well spotted that man. Could have saved a life down the line mate, well done.
 
It did take 4 visits to find it. Never seen water actually coming out from inside a twin and earth cable before. Certainly confuses you when you lift the flooring above the light fitting and there's no sign of water there at all!
 
Also quite amazing that the system was a pressurised system and it didn't really leak much until I lifted the pipework slightly to assess the cable and got sprayed in the face with nice hot water lol.
 
nicely sorted, a good reason to earth all copper pies

And not to use plastic pipework to be honest either. Amazing how many houses I go into where you see the stopcock is bonded but some of the heating system is plastic which unless there's earthing crossing over the plastic wouldn't switch off the electricity in this situation.
 
LOL yes very tasty.
 
you cant believe some moron would do that,no conscience at all
 
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