Central heating and pipework issus all over newly bought house.

[Best]

Pumps can appear to be working fine, but are actually only half working. This can happen with nearly new pumps also.
Usually if the pump is failing, the furthest rads from the boiler and also on drops pipework will not work well, if at all.
Also make sure your system is balanced properly so that there are no easy circuits for the pump to do and therefore not properly heat some of the rads. If turning off some rads makes the others work better, this might mean balancing is needed

 

[jtsplumbing]

Are you by any chance in a hard water area ? as you may have a slight scale build up as well , seems hard water area's suffer a lot more from sludge than soft water area's,

 

[KevRusski]

Guys, on here nobody has really mentioned the magna clean system I have built in.

I cleaned this yesterday so it was free from sludge.

If I used the MC3+ rapide cleaner which is supposed to remove sludge/limescale etc would this be a good thing to try. My problem with this is with needing to power flush after but according to what it says on the sales adverts it "does not require a partial drain down".

It does say this at the end "ADEY's new formula has been specially developed to deliver exceptional results when used in conjunction with ADEY’s best practice MagnaCleanse®flushing process"

1. Would I be right to use this and do nothing else but add it to the magnaclean canister and walk away?

2. The do an MC1 product which I believe is an inhibitor, can I, say in a couple weeks after add this into the cylinder.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree and should call in a pro! its I have this magnaclean and that should do the job its purposes to do.

 

[KevRusski]

hard....:thinking2:

 

[john999uk]

I am not a plumber but if the rads are hot at the top and not so hot at the bottom that sounds like the bottom is full of sludge. I you guess the sludge wont heat up very fast.
I would guess that you need a power flush to get the sludge out of the rads.
If you have already removed 3 rads and refitted them you sound like you are OK at diy. So maybe a cheap way of doing a partial flush is to remove all the rads and flush them with a hose pipe outside.
While this wont be as effective as a proper power flush it might be better than nothing and get you going till you get a new boler. Obviously there is a possibility you could damage pipe work etc removing and refitting rads plus the need to refill with corrosion inhibitor etc.
One thing to remember is that normally a power flush will be required for a new boiler install. So it could actually be more cost effective to have the boiler replaced and power flushed if you consider that a new boiler will probably be more efficient than the old one so you will save on fuel.

 

[KevRusski]

Sorry, having some problems, repeat post clarified.

Guys, on here nobody has really mentioned the magna clean system I have built in.

I cleaned this yesterday so it was free from sludge.

If I used the MC3+ rapide cleaner which is supposed to remove sludge/limescale etc would this be a good thing to try. My problem with this is with needing to power flush after but according to what it says on the sales adverts it "does not require a partial drain down".

It does say this at the end "ADEY's new formula has been specially developed to deliver exceptional results when used in conjunction with ADEY’s best practice MagnaCleanse®flushing process". So it does look like it needs flushing if I was to talk that route.

1. So mc3+ needs a power flush?

2. They do an MC1 product which I believe is an inhibitor, I assume this wouldn't help until after a power flush?

I have this magnaclean and that should do the job its purposes to do?

 

[KevRusski]

For info: the boiler is only 6 years old, this will be when the magnaclean was installed, so it should have been flushed then.......

Sludge wouldn't cause the boiler noise ramping up/down on a 10second cycle upon start up for 20minutes or so would it?

 

[rpm]

For info: the boiler is only 6 years old, this will be when the magnaclean was installed, so it should have been flushed then.......

Sludge wouldn't cause the boiler noise ramping up/down on a 10second cycle upon start up for 20minutes or so would it?

The key word there kev is "should" but was it powerflushed or chemical cleaned, guess we don`t the answer to that do we.

 

[jtsplumbing]

If you add a good quality system cleaner (I Only use Fernox Product's) F5 , then run system it will start to dislodge sludge, But you will need to clean the filter every couple of days, but first remove rads and rinse though with hose, bit of a time consuming job but if you are looking to save money that is the way to go, DIY. Did you say that someone quoted £500 to replace pump and power flush system ? if that's so you need to get him round asap, You need to find out if you are in a HARD WATER AREA, as you may need to add extra chemicals to treat system.

 

[KevRusski]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uob9WliUAY

Heres a link to show you what the boiler does.

Thank you for all your feedback.

 

[KevRusski]

If you add a good quality system cleaner (I Only use Fernox Product's) F5 , then run system it will start to dislodge sludge, But you will need to clean the filter every couple of days, but first remove rads and rinse though with hose, bit of a time consuming job but if you are looking to save money that is the way to go, DIY. Did you say that someone quoted £500 to replace pump and power flush system ? if that's so you need to get him round asap, You need to find out if you are in a HARD WATER AREA, as you may need to add extra chemicals to treat system.

Sorry mate, I responded to that above, but not clearly enough. Yes I am in a hard water area.
After balancing the radiators the house is much warmer, I would say every rad is very hot for the top 2/3rds, the bottom reasonably hot. The best way I can describe this is they are barely touchable at the top but you can hold your hand on them at the bottom, but still hot.
So perhaps thats not too far being reasonably efficient, but still needs some longer term remedy.

Right now perhaps I need to concentrate on sorting the boiler
(see video link).
I think the first step has to be to try and replace the CH pump.

 

[king of pipes]

Kev you have been told what to do mate your magna clean will catch any debris on its way back to the boiler but it's not there to clean the whole system out , drain down get your Adey m+3 cleaner in the system if that what you want to use and let the system run with the old pump for a week , drain and flush out , change the pump now add inhibitor Adey m+1 refill the system and vent out run the boiler job done

 

[Dotty]

Do NOT take the boiler casing off.

You need a gsr.

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