Illegal hot water tank install

[nick.batchelor]

Just had a dodgy builder install a hot water tank using a plumber who isn't G3 certified. They then got g3 gas Safe registered engineer commission it, but it doesn't meet building regs (wrong discharge pipe, plastic not metal) and he didn't register it with building control. Any ideas who I can report this guy to? Gas Safe aren't interested as it didn't break gas legislation (though they are going after the builder for illegal gas installation).


Thanks.

 

[Scott_D]

Any pics?
Who said it doesn’t meet regs?

 

[nick.batchelor]

Any pics?
Who said it doesn’t meet regs?

3 gas safe engineers with G3 qualifications (including the regional gas safe inspector). Basically the discharge pipe is bog standard plastic and not metal / high heat resistant plastic and they didn't register with building regs. Plus the pipework for the metal pipework from the turndish has a bend in it apparently.

 

[Aire]

What plastic has been used? You can use waste pipe so long as it's adequately clipped.

 

[nick.batchelor]

3 gas safe engineers with G3 qualifications (including the regional gas safe inspector). Basically the discharge pipe is bog standard plastic and not metal / high heat resistant plastic and they didn't register with building regs. Plus the pipework for the metal pipework from the turndish has a bend in it apparently.

 

[Alex-Gas]

Have you already paid for the installation?

 

[nick.batchelor]

Have you already paid for the installation?

Haven't paid the builder fully get, but that was just one of the many f*** ups they did. Really more concerned about the dodgy G3 guy who filled in the commission paperwork, but crossed out the section for the build regs cert and failed to register it. I know gas safe will be talking to him re the dodgy gas work he came to inspect and left us with without telling us it was completely illegal and unsafe, but wondered if I need to report to someone for G3 or just trading standards?

 

[Chuck]

What plastic has been used? You can use waste pipe so long as it's adequately clipped.

3.57 The discharge pipe (D2) should be made of: (a) metal; or (b) other material that has been demonstrated to be capable of safely withstanding temperatures of the water discharged and is clearly and permanently marked to identify the product and performance standard (e.g. as specified in the relevant part of BS 7291- 1:2006 Thermostatic pipes and fittings for hot and cold water for domestic purposes and heating installations in buildings. General requirements).

 

[nick.batchelor]

3.57 The discharge pipe (D2) should be made of: (a) metal; or (b) other material that has been demonstrated to be capable of safely withstanding temperatures of the water discharged and is clearly and permanently marked to identify the product and performance standard (e.g. as specified in the relevant part of BS 7291- 1:2006 Thermostatic pipes and fittings for hot and cold water for domestic purposes and heating installations in buildings. General requirements).

Yup; had 3 G3 qualified engineers confirm that ain't the case

 

[Scott_D]

So it was commissioned or he looked at it and walked away?

 

[Aire]

3.57 The discharge pipe (D2) should be made of: (a) metal; or (b) other material that has been demonstrated to be capable of safely withstanding temperatures of the water discharged and is clearly and permanently marked to identify the product and performance standard (e.g. as specified in the relevant part of BS 7291- 1:2006 Thermostatic pipes and fittings for hot and cold water for domestic purposes and heating installations in buildings. General requirements).

What's your point?

 

[Aire]

Yup; had 3 G3 qualified engineers confirm that ain't the case

The plastic used is wrong, pushfit can be used, not solvent. Hence me asking what plastic was used.

 

[Chuck]

What's your point?

That there was more to the requirement than your post implied.

 

[nick.batchelor]

So it was commissioned or he looked at it and walked away?

He filled in the tank's paperwork to say it met building regs (which it didn't), didn't register it and then walked away.

 

[Welder]

What plastic has been used? You can use waste pipe so long as it's adequately clipped.

Unf you cannot use just any pipe as the D2. It must be able to stand appropriate temps for the designated periods. The correct pipe has a special designation. There is currently much debate over whether an internal soil stack can take hi temps for long periods.

The 'test' is nothing like one could even imagine as a worst case scenario...