Illegal hot water tank install

[nick.batchelor]

Just had a dodgy builder install a hot water tank using a plumber who isn't G3 certified. They then got g3 gas Safe registered engineer commission it, but it doesn't meet building regs (wrong discharge pipe, plastic not metal) and he didn't register it with building control. Any ideas who I can report this guy to? Gas Safe aren't interested as it didn't break gas legislation (though they are going after the builder for illegal gas installation).


Thanks.

 

[nick.batchelor]

Unf you cannot use just any pipe as the D2. It must be able to stand appropriate temps for the designated periods. The correct pipe has a special designation. There is currently much debate over whether an internal soil stack can take hi temps for long periods.

The 'test' is nothing like one could even imagine as a worst case scenario...

There's no question that it didn't meet building regs. Just wondering if there is an equivalent to gas safety register for G3 installs that I can report him to?

 

[nick.batchelor]

Unf you cannot use just any pipe as the D2. It must be able to stand appropriate temps for the designated periods. The correct pipe has a special designation. There is currently much debate over whether an internal soil stack can take hi temps for long periods.

The 'test' is nothing like one could even imagine as a worst case scenario...

There's no question that it didn't meet building regs. Just wondering if there is an equivalent to gas safety register for G3 installs that I can report him to?

 

[Welder]

Any ideas who I can report this guy to? Gas Safe aren't interested as it didn't break gas legislation (though they are going after the builder for illegal gas installation)

Seems to me you are convinced you have all the answers so I am at a loss as to why you come here.

You have done your bit by involving gas safe and patently local building control are involved too. There is nothing we can add to that or frankly would wish to. We are not there so we cannot comment other than to tut our way through your tale of woe.

Good luck.

 

[Aire]

Unf you cannot use just any pipe as the D2. It must be able to stand appropriate temps for the designated periods. The correct pipe has a special designation. There is currently much debate over whether an internal soil stack can take hi temps for long periods.

The 'test' is nothing like one could even imagine as a worst case scenario...

no arguments with that but currently you can use waste pipe as the d2 discharge, needs to be polypropylene and manufactured to en 1451 which we now know op's doesn't conform to this but my post was before we found that out

 

[nick.batchelor]

Really was only wondering if there is a body like gas safe that covers hot water tank installs as gas safe don't get involved in that. Local building control are involved at this stage

 

[Welder]

Really was only wondering if there is a body like gas safe that covers hot water tank installs as gas safe don't get involved in that. Local building control are involved at this stage

Unf none. It's local BC.

 

[WC1]

G3 is a building regulation. So building control are the enforcing authority.

 

[nick.batchelor]

Unf none. It's local BC.

Ta. Many thanks.

 

[WC1]

Snap!

 

[chris watkins]

Really was only wondering if there is a body like gas safe that covers hot water tank installs as gas safe don't get involved in that. Local building control are involved at this stage

Unfortunately there isn't unless the person who installed it is registered under a Competent Persons Scheme which they won't be.
If you paid the builder for the work to install the cylinder you will need to go back to them for redress as they would / should be aware that the installation falls under AD Part G (3) & it is notifiable.
If you paid for it yourself then you didn't carry out the due diligent tests to ensure that the person carrying out the work was competent to do so, unfortunately it will be down to you to get it corrected & notified as you are the house owner.

 

[WC1]

These people are around. They give us all a bad name. If one is operating in your neighbourhood best reporting might be to your friends and neighbours.

 

[SimonG]

Always two sides to a story, obviously poor work if gas safe involved (don't hold your breath) and wrong discharge pipe material, however just to quell my curiosity, were the works carried out by the cheapest quote?

 

[nick.batchelor]

Always two sides to a story, obviously poor work if gas safe involved (don't hold your breath) and wrong discharge pipe material, however just to quell my curiosity, were the works carried out by the cheapest quote?

Nope; was the middle priced and the whole build was project managed (laughable).

 

[SimonG]

Nope; was the middle priced and the whole build was project managed (laughable).

Curiosity quelled. Thankyou.

 

[king of pipes]

When your area gas safe representative vists to do a inspection point out your concerns these faults will need to rectified by a G3 engineer and any gas faults by a gas safe registered company , I have had experience of this having corrected a few installations the original installers had to repay a good percentage of the install costs and agree to retrain or lose their registration, their future installs are then inspected to make sure they meet a decent standard workmanship and all the regulations, believe me this is a real PITA and it will really make them think twice before breaking any future regulations . Kop