Installing a basin waste.

[Ellis01]

Hi. I have fitted a vanity unit in my downstairs toilet room, this is the first time I have done this type of work and everything was going fine until I tried to fit the phone trap to the click button waste. IT WILL NOT FIT.
I have a telescopic please trap which I bought today from city plumbing. They told me they are one size so would be fine. When I try to push it into the click button under the basin ithe won't push up to the rubber seal. I don't understand why. I have watched YouTube tutorials and they just slot straight in. Could it be the click waste is wrong size or am I missing something really obvious? Click waste is from Victoria plumb. Would really appreciate any help, this is driving me mad. Thanks

 

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Pop a photo up Ellis

 

[ShaunCorbs]

You will need to screw the trap onto the waste fitting , it won't push

 

[Ellis01]

 

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Well we all start somewhere don`t we guys.

 

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oh yea I see, the lip won't allow the rubber to sit, Victoria plumb haven't supplied you with the best pop up waste, I would pick another one up from city plumb and refund the one you have.

 

[Ellis01]

I've tried to screw it and Tristan it in. It's just too tight. I will end up breaking something if I force it much more.

 

[Ellis01]

Ment twist

 

[Ellis01]

I thought that might be the issue. Just thought I would check before getting another. Last time I use Victoria plumb. Thanks for the reassurance.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Also your missing the top nut off your trap

 

[gassafe]

Probably just a poor quality waste from Victoria plumb, if you can't file that lip down or force it in to reach the rubber it will keep leaking!

It can't be far off, alternatively it could be a cheap trap... Try Mcalpine stuff that's the best

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Probably just a poor quality waste from Victoria plumb, if you can't file that lip down or force it in to reach the rubber it will keep leaking!

It can't be far off, alternatively it could be a cheap trap... Try Mcalpine stuff that's the best

Looks like a Mcalpine trap

 

[Ellis01]

Yeah I know mate I just offered it up quickly to show that it doesn't fit.

 

[gassafe]

Looks like a Mcalpine trap

Yeah that's true, gotta be a cheapo Victoria plumb Chinese special then...

 

[Ellis01]

What's up with it?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yeah that's true, gotta be a cheapo Victoria plumb Chinese special then...

Yep looks that way

You have two options op

Either replace the waste fitting (best option)

Or you could cut or file the lip down to fit the waste fitting

 

[ShaunCorbs]

What's up with it?

Waste wall thickness out of spec

 

[Ellis01]

It is a mcalpine. Just checked the packet. I will get another click waste tomorrow

 

[Best]

If it is close to the size, all you have to do it remove the rubber seal temporarily while you file the bit at the top of the trap down.
Just to be annoying, I am going to add that the tap flexi shouldn't be tightened onto the isolating valve. The valve is not designed for flat washers going against it. Some plumbers do it though.

 

[Gary Lee]

is this a wind up

 

[ShaunCorbs]

is this a wind up

what do you mean?

 

[Ellis01]

Oh okay. I didn't know that. What should the tap flexi be attached to?

 

[Riley]

15mm to 1/2"male iron

 

[Ellis01]

OK thanks. I will pick some up tomorrow.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

OK thanks. I will pick some up tomorrow.

will need a short piece of pipe between the valve and male iron

 

[plumben]

Take a Stanley name knife and shave the top edge of the trap down till the rubber meets, I've had to do this multiple times with cheap bathroom wastes

 

[BN9Pete]

Had this problem a couple of weeks back, Victoria Plum waste is a different size and will not fit normal waste traps like a McAlpine.
I had to get an adaptor made by McApine to screw onto the Vic Plum waste.

Victoria Plum sell their own traps which fit their wastes and funny enough they are more expensive than McAlpine.

Edit- You need a McAlpine S12A-F 1 1/4 European to UK waste outlet adaptor.

 

[tamz]

Take a Stanley name knife and shave the top edge of the trap down till the rubber meets, I've had to do this multiple times with cheap bathroom wastes

Learned that one 30 years odd ago when pop ups 1st came out. Leave a mill or 2 enough to hold the washer in place or you will be there all day.

 

[tamz]

The wastes are not necessarily cheap, just euro sized.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Learned that one 30 years odd ago when pop ups 1st came out. Leave a mill or 2 enough to hold the washer in place or you will be there all day.

Normally just below/ flush with the rubber works

 

[gassafe]

The wastes are not necessarily cheap, just euro sized.

Well they shouldn't be sold over here then