installing a coooker that is over 5 years old in a tower block question

[moogwai]

evenin lads......quick question for ya as I'm not sure on the answer....can a free standing cooker that is made before 2008 and has no fsd's be installed in a tower block? I know someone who is moving into a flat and has an older cooker......just because she is moving into a flat does she have to buy a new cooker? cheers

 

[tamz]

I'm afraid she does.

 

[moogwai]

I thought as much...thanks tamz.

 

[jefaz]

http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/landlords...n-flats-and-the-multi-occupancy-dwellings.pdf

 

[jefaz]

What's this about being able to fit a second hand one?

 

[tamz]

Well blow me :lol:

 

[dancinplumba]

That reads to me that you can fit but NCS ?

 

[lame plumber]

the whole thing is new cookers, you cant just force everyone to change old or existing or 2nd hand.

 

[moogwai]

so just to clarify...it can be installed but is just classed as ncs.

 

[jase158]

read it properly, yes you can fit it as it is second hand/ used, but you cant fit it as its in a flat/ house of multiple occupation

 

[lame plumber]

read it properly, yes you can fit it as it is second hand/ used, but you cant fit it as its in a flat/ house of multiple occupation

I think your comprehension of the English language differs from mine then

 

[jase158]

read the section named "where do the requirements of IGE/G/5 Apply?"

 

[moogwai]

head's gone...will call gas safe in the mornin

 

[jase158]

reading it thoroughly, I think you can,, but best to check, would be interested to know result

 

[tamz]

I've not got IGE/G/5 here but here is a bit from the commentary to an ammendment.

As with many new requirements intended to improve safety levels, consideration had to be given to the impact in terms of cost and practicality. In this case, it was clear that compliance with the new requirement would need to be achieved gradually. In terms of cost, it was not reasonable to insist that non-compliant previously-used appliances being moved into an individual dwelling in a multi-dwelling building be replaced with new compliant appliances. In terms of practicality, it was not reasonable to assume appliance manufacturers would immediately supply modified appliances for retail (and hence implementation of that particular requirement was deferred until 1st January 2008).
The requirement was never intended to ban the use of previously-used appliances and the following amendment to clause 8.2.1 clarifies that intent, i.e. the requirement now mentions ‘new’ and the new Note 4 addresses previously-used appliances.

So yes you can but it will apparently be NTC.

 

[lame plumber]

All those words for yes u can not like a scot to use more than required

 

[tamz]

Probably written by an Englishman :lol:

They need to pad the book out to make you feel less bad for spending over 100 quid on it :smile:

 

[anz]

You can install the cooker if she already uses it in her current property.
Whereas if she just purchased it from a second hand shop you wouldn't be allowed to install it.

The idea behind this is that as she already owns and is already a user of the appliance, she will be familiar with the controls, making it less risky.

 

[lame plumber]

You can install the cooker if she already uses it in her current property.
Whereas if she just purchased it from a second hand shop you wouldn't be allowed to install it.

The idea behind this is that as she already owns and is already a user of the appliance, she will be familiar with the controls, making it less risky.

not what the tb stated

 

[buckley plumb]

I have always said if gas safety info was in proper easy to understand English it would be so easy

 

[RPG 80]

I had this last year had to fit a second hand cooker without a FSD for a new tenant in a ground floor flat in a multistory occupancy. I thought i it wasn't allowed but was unsure, so called Gas safe who assured me it was acceptable as long as the cooker was functioning correctly. I was quite surprised to call and get a definitive answer but hey ho every days a school day.

 

[anz]

not what the tb stated

TB was updated this January.

 

[lame plumber]

still allowed to install used and 2nd hand though

 

[moogwai]

She just brought an electric oven!!! Lol

 

[anz]

still allowed to install used and 2nd hand though

Only used not second hand.

 

[lame plumber]

Only used not second hand.

why dont you read page 2 of TB 015 to get your facts right, look at 2nd hand cookers para

 

[anz]

You're right.

 

[REDSAW]

nothing stops the removal man from connecting a used one!.

you will find thousands of those instances but as soon as we do it......................