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Ermintrude
Don't read the add mag what's changed like
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newcastle phill
Im curious too. Have the mag but using it as a bed for my rabbit.
Latest tboo1 does state physical disconnect still
Latest tboo1 does state physical disconnect still
So the chap who ID'd the boiler failed to disconnect or cap it! OK. His boss attended & quoted for a replacement Boiler. The OP then attended to determine how his replacement boiler will be fitted/installed.
My question then is: Did the OP or his boss disconnect or cap the boiler/gas, disconnected electrical supply to boiler etc, etc, when they attended? NO. So who was the last one in? And as far as responsibility goes, the last one in 'has a duty of care' to be able to determine that there is danger to live and so disconnect or/and cap.
What would have happened if someone operated the boiler and got injured or killed an hour after him and his boss attended?
THEY AS JUST AS GUILTY AS THE CHAP who ID'd the boiler.
My question then is: Did the OP or his boss disconnect or cap the boiler/gas, disconnected electrical supply to boiler etc, etc, when they attended? NO. So who was the last one in? And as far as responsibility goes, the last one in 'has a duty of care' to be able to determine that there is danger to live and so disconnect or/and cap.
What would have happened if someone operated the boiler and got injured or killed an hour after him and his boss attended?
THEY AS JUST AS GUILTY AS THE CHAP who ID'd the boiler.
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Rickster123
Blimey this all kicked off abit didn't it. This is what happens when men are forced to watch Xfactor and strictly come dancin!
Oh and Gasman I've picked up your dummy, you spat it all the way over here!:21:
Oh and Gasman I've picked up your dummy, you spat it all the way over here!:21:
Shoot up? I think he exploded! Lol.
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BenF
Didn't think i would get this much response to a forum i've never used before, should of replied to a few messages sooner but anyway. Probably won't be Riddoring but quite shocked to see how many people seem to think i'm over reacting. In my opinion if someone is gas safe register they should do there job correctly and not cut corners, who was to say that that isolation point hadn't failed and would allow gas through to a ID'd boiler. Just because it didn't kill anyone doesn't mean that it's acceptable in my opinion... Sorry for taking this serious...
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Dotty
It's a bit of an emotional one Ben.
Say the shoe was on the other foot and you'd left a boiler like that. Would you prefer a phone call from the guy on site asking why you'd left it and a gentle reminder not to do it again, or would you prefer gas safe knocking on your door?
I know which I'd prefer.
Say the shoe was on the other foot and you'd left a boiler like that. Would you prefer a phone call from the guy on site asking why you'd left it and a gentle reminder not to do it again, or would you prefer gas safe knocking on your door?
I know which I'd prefer.
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BenF
Yeah i understand where you're coming from i was curious as the best thing to do but bit shocked to see the amount of people thinking i'm being overkill here. I take my job seriously and follow the rules.
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newcastle phill
Please lock this thread lol.
As if lifes not hard enough without wippa snappers climbing on their high horses and yeilding power to make themselves seem significant
As if lifes not hard enough without wippa snappers climbing on their high horses and yeilding power to make themselves seem significant
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Rickster123
Croppies not a wippa snapper!
its perfectly legal and within the rules to id a boiler and leave the premesise
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REDSAW
no, but someone told me he's into it!!!!
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Billy Bob Bob
who is that aimed at then?
The OP.
He says he is a good engineer when it comes to gas and does everything perfect. Ofcourse he does, But why belittle the likes of myself?
Well, I'll stick my neck out and say I agree with the O.P (and Ermi)
I get the impression the RIDDOR was being questioned as he was trying to do the right thing in the circumstances. Whilst I agree it would be a touch harsh the bottom line is he's just trying to get a response on how to deal with the situation he found, which was not as it should have been left.
you can't pick and choose which regulations to abide by, especially in this circumstance the risk is potentially life threatening.
Give the guy a break, it's good to hear someone abiding by the regulations, don't cut him down for that. To be honest, the abuse he got for asking a question was unbelievable, especially from people who are supposed to be moderating the forum.
To the O.P, I suspect the wording of the question was what got people's backs up. I:E 'can I riddor' as opposed to 'should I riddor'.
I get the impression the RIDDOR was being questioned as he was trying to do the right thing in the circumstances. Whilst I agree it would be a touch harsh the bottom line is he's just trying to get a response on how to deal with the situation he found, which was not as it should have been left.
you can't pick and choose which regulations to abide by, especially in this circumstance the risk is potentially life threatening.
Give the guy a break, it's good to hear someone abiding by the regulations, don't cut him down for that. To be honest, the abuse he got for asking a question was unbelievable, especially from people who are supposed to be moderating the forum.
To the O.P, I suspect the wording of the question was what got people's backs up. I:E 'can I riddor' as opposed to 'should I riddor'.
I agree that this thread has had it's day and needs to be CLOSED.
Let's just shake hands and move on
Let's just shake hands and move on
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Billy Bob Bob
right gottcha
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lame plumber
if you were to riddor it, then you are obliged to leave it as found, to enable proper evidential investigation to take place by HSE, so do you cap it or not, or just go ahead and replace the boiler and earn a crust 🙂
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Billy Bob Bob
think its for the best if its closed,i also think i could have handled this better,but it reminded me of a engineer a few years back who went through something similar,he was found to be without blame but it caused him massive problems
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