Proximity of flue

[EPH]

What have he neighbours said when you approached them about the flue?

 

[lame plumber]

have a read of Polly's posts, she doesnt like the overbearing extension and thats the real problem!

 

[Polly]

Quite right lame, I don't like the extension.

Nevertheless, the rule requiring the flue to be .6m from the boundary has been breached, as has the rule requiring a low level flue to be 2.5m from the boundary. When the wind is blowing in the right direction, I will be walking through the steam.

 

[Ermintrude]

6m from boundary? Wtf? I'm in trouble fitted 1000's much closer than 6m

 

[stevetheplumber]

Point six

 

[Polly]

Hi.
Not much. Not interested. They don't have much if any regard or consideration for me or other neighbours, but I'm the one most affected.

 

[lame plumber]

you fuss to much, flat below my house has a flue by the back door at shoulder ht, no one has ever suffered 3rd degree burns or suffered from co poisoning in the 8 years its been there, you need another hobby horse or you will ruin your relationship with all who live near you and then youll stress from that and have to move.

 

[Polly]

Hi lame.
path is not owned by extension builder, it is neighbour on the other side. I didn't think it would get signed off as does not comply with regulations, but it has. I can only assume the guidelines are only guidelines & not enforceable. Don't know

 

[Nostrum]

You need to take it up with building control, they have the final say. No point whinging on here about it as we haven't got any power to change it, and personally couldn't give a toss if you walk through a steam cloud or not.

Sorry if you take offence but reading through the thread it's obvious you have a distinct disliking to this extension as a whole and your grasping onto this flue issue like its going to ruin your life. Sometimes things change and someone else's benefits/actions can have slightly negative effect on someone else. My advise is get over it, its a bit of steam not an incinerator outlet.

 

[lame plumber]

You need to take it up with building control, they have the final say. No point whinging on here about it as we haven't got any power to change it, and personally couldn't give a toss if you walk through a steam cloud or not.

Sorry if you take offence but reading through the thread it's obvious you have a distinct disliking to this extension as a whole and your grasping onto this flue issue like its going to ruin your life. Sometimes things change and someone else's benefits/actions can have slightly negative effect on someone else. My advise is get over it, its a bit of steam not an incinerator outlet.

My apprentice!!

 

[helpsy]

Life is short !!!

 

[Polly]

I don't like it, feel its too close. If the flue near the flat doesn't bother the people in the flat that's fine, it's also their output, not someone else's being imposed on them. I hope you can see from that perspective.

 

[helpsy]

Bigger things in life to worry about.

 

[SimonG]

If a low level flue had to be 2.5m from a boundary than there's a lot of illegal flues around. I don't think it breaches any rules, or any that will force it to be moved.

With the height the flue has been positioned then I would suggest that the installer has already raised it internally to prevent it being as much of a nuisance if it had been sticking out at 1.8m with a terminal guard.

Your only issue is that on the occasion that the boiler is running and the wind is blowing in the right direction and the boiler is condensing and you just happen to be walking past, then for a split second you will pass through the steam generated.

 

[helpsy]

Get a quote from a Gas safe engineer for adjustment work. Talk to neighbour offering to pay for it. Problem solved. Everyone's happy ! Well maybe ;-)

 

[EPH]

Sympathetic lot on here haha

 

[SimonG]

I don't think you are going to get the answer you are wanting. If you feel aggrieved than pursue through Gas Safe. I don't know if they will charge you to come and look at it though.

 

[Polly]

I did take it up with building control, guy said it depends where you take the boundary from. That sounds nuts to me. I don't appreciate being fobbed off.

it's not ruining my life, but if I can get something done about it I will, & best do it soon as.

 

[helpsy]

Off you go then....seem to know what route you're taking.

 

[lame plumber]

why does anyone think gas safe will give a hoot, it is a building control issue and they have already pased it if the extn is built and lived in

 

[Polly]

Thanks Simon. I will get back on to gas safe.

 

[lame plumber]

it isnt a gas safe issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[SimonG]

why does anyone think gas safe will give a hoot, it is a building control issue and they have already pased it if the extn is built and lived in

I don't think they will.

 

[Polly]

That's what I don't understand, how can they sign it off if does not comply? Do they have to follow the regs? Also who signs off, is it build control and gas safe?

 

[lame plumber]

the man that installs it signs it off

 

[EPH]

They won't.

 

[Polly]

gas safe told me it didn't meet requirements but build control guy said he signed it off. (He also said they had not been very considerate with how it had been installed). They seem to be contradicting each other.

 

[Nostrum]

I did take it up with building control, guy said it depends where you take the boundary from. That sounds nuts to me. I don't appreciate being fobbed off.

it's not ruining my life, but if I can get something done about it I will, & best do it soon as.

To be honest I actually applaud building control for once for using discretion. If your using nuisance and a boundary together then it seems reasonable to use the boundary from the property of the complainant? Your boundary seems to be far beyond 600mm?

If everyone had a similar outlook to you then we'd never progress with anything. Nothing would get built unless it was a million miles away from anyone else. Give it a few weeks and if you have anything better to think about then you'll have forgotten about it and be more interested in ranting over the neighbour across the roads Christmas lights reflecting off your t.v screen when the X factor finals are on.

 

[Polly]

I'm sure they won't either, but definitely nothing will happen if I don't try.

 

[EPH]

So the path is 1.3m wide and the boundary is surely after that if the home owner has shared access to it.

MI state "care should be taken to ensure terminal siting does not cause a nuisance to adjacent properties" and for me he's done that as he's well within the boundary and the height off the ground.

Theres nothing wrong with the installation you should offer to pay half for a plume kit if its that serious an issue for you and do t waste your money ringing gas safe.

 

[Nostrum]

Or try this

 

[Premgas1]

Just read through your MSG. I'm afraid that providing you have 600mm's from the tip of the flue to the centre of your shared path/boundary it is all above board and legal. It is 2.1m's from floor level so it is away from potential hazards from burns etc. you could request your neighbour to fit a plume kit to take it away from your eye line & also direct it along their property. With regard to windows / extractors it's 300mm's for fanned appliance. I hope that helps

 

[Polly]

I've had no experience of anything to do with planning or building until this. This has been so unnecessary & if the flue had been sited more discreetly we wouldn't have any of this. It is the focal point of a bare brick wall that pretty much faces my front (and only) door. The owners were going to grow plants up the wall, which would improve the whole appearance, but now they're not, saying local animals crapping on the bit of ground (which I clear up). A builder friend said plants will cost to maintained so they won't - although climbing plants were on the plans (even I know that cant be enforced!)

 

[Polly]

Ha ha!:rolleyes2:

 

[lame plumber]

time to leave the forum its not the flue you hate just the extn!!

 

[Polly]

Thanks prem

 

[Polly]

H prem. where does the centre of the path bit come from?

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

wow wow 8 pages !!

 

[Nostrum]

Focal point of the wall? What are you looking at the wall for anyway!

 

[Premgas1]

When it's a shared path with equal access/rights the boundary is taken as the centre of path.

 

[P J F PLUMBING]

does any one care anymore ?? ( sorry )

 

[SimonG]

does any one care anymore ?? ( sorry )

If nobody does, how did you get on with that tank?

 

[Premgas1]

Probably not, but I need to get 10 posts in as new to forum

 

[Polly]

It is owned by neighbour on other side. Not shared or common ground, only easement rights down it. Does that change things?

 

[Polly]

Well stop looking at it then!

 

[lame plumber]

no .

 

[Premgas1]

If your neighbour owns the land then it sounds like legally there is nothing wrong with it. I suggest you speak to them and see if they will fit a plume kit.

 

[Polly]

It sits in the middle of a bare brick wall, apart from the builders sign which the owners do not seem to want to take down. They might be leaving it up just to upset me , but as its temporary & not permanent, I don't care

 

[EPH]

Polly, dearest Polly, you've come on here for some advice and you've had it, loads of it. Yet you still seem to know best or seem to be on a mission to get these poor people to move their boiler because for 10 minutes a day you can see the plume and in some unfathomable way its having a negative affect on your life.

Its not dangerous.
Its been installed to MI.
Building control are satisfied with it.
Gas Safe have no interest in it what so ever.

Please, for your own sake, give it a rest you'll make yourself ill.

 

[Premgas1]

I couldn't have put it clearer myself. I guess I was just trying to be diplomatic.