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GPS164
I have to agree with mike on this one....access can be difficult and time is money...buy the tool once, look after it and you will be removing the little buggers wth ease for years to come.
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Bernie2
In the cave man days of the last century, there was no such thing as olive pullers. Except in Italy and then it was for the olives you eat not those you put on pipe's.
Most used olives though are knackered and often dented into the pipe itself if superman had been about tightening the back nuts, thinking the tighter they are the less likely they are to leak, not true over tightening usually makes them leak.
We called olives "rings" using the word "olive" for a ring was seen as a sign of a DIY guy not a plumber. If I remember right, its because I think in the Conex compression catalogue they a called "olives" "rings" and a DIY was thought not to read Conex catalogues, which many plumbers did to find the catalogue number of the fittings.
So we would use a combination of tricks to get the olive, i.e. spanner behind back nut and knock the olive off, hacksaw as already explained, piece of wood and tap the olive downward with it.
Surprising as it may seem a piece of wood often worked the best, while it didn't look as though it would. It didn't leave all them scrape marks from the spanner or footies on the pipe either. Its a bit of a knack to it of course, and some guys could get nearly any olive off with one or two knocks.
We would often also look for replacement olives made of copper or soft brass, of the same size of course, simply because they would squash down easier onto an out of true pipe end.
The old Honeywell three port valves had olives/rings in them so hard, you needed a pair of Stilsons to tighten them up, to stop them from leaking.
The modern olive pullers, seem okay I have never tried them though, usually spent the cash on something else.
Most used olives though are knackered and often dented into the pipe itself if superman had been about tightening the back nuts, thinking the tighter they are the less likely they are to leak, not true over tightening usually makes them leak.
We called olives "rings" using the word "olive" for a ring was seen as a sign of a DIY guy not a plumber. If I remember right, its because I think in the Conex compression catalogue they a called "olives" "rings" and a DIY was thought not to read Conex catalogues, which many plumbers did to find the catalogue number of the fittings.
So we would use a combination of tricks to get the olive, i.e. spanner behind back nut and knock the olive off, hacksaw as already explained, piece of wood and tap the olive downward with it.
Surprising as it may seem a piece of wood often worked the best, while it didn't look as though it would. It didn't leave all them scrape marks from the spanner or footies on the pipe either. Its a bit of a knack to it of course, and some guys could get nearly any olive off with one or two knocks.
We would often also look for replacement olives made of copper or soft brass, of the same size of course, simply because they would squash down easier onto an out of true pipe end.
The old Honeywell three port valves had olives/rings in them so hard, you needed a pair of Stilsons to tighten them up, to stop them from leaking.
The modern olive pullers, seem okay I have never tried them though, usually spent the cash on something else.
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scurge
check out monument they do olive cutters and pullers i prefer the cutters to be honest and they available in 8 and 10 mm too whereas the pullers usually come in 15-22mm and its usually possible to take a 22 off with a grips becuase they dont compress so much unless a gorrillas put them on making it redundant !!!
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feltham
hi i used to struggle gettin them off too but i bought a olive removing tool in 15mm and 22mm .these are about £25 each aprox i did have a olive puller but they are just hard work
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heatman
Monument 2030B Olive Removing Tool 15mm
is worth every penny spent on it !
these have come in very handy when having to change radiator valves to thermostatic valves when the thread is not the same on the nut.
i have used bungs on f+e tank and black-dust-bin-bag wrapped behind valve and pipe to catch water and with quick action cut-remove-put on new valve! saves so much time refilling system
is worth every penny spent on it !
these have come in very handy when having to change radiator valves to thermostatic valves when the thread is not the same on the nut.
i have used bungs on f+e tank and black-dust-bin-bag wrapped behind valve and pipe to catch water and with quick action cut-remove-put on new valve! saves so much time refilling system
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pt44
Just to complete my initial post - don't know whether I ever mentioned that I did buy a Monument Removal tool. And I find it superb. Has worked flawlessley every time I've needed it. So thank you to the forum.
My dad always uses the hacksaw method. But being a clumsy sod, knowing my luck I would cut the pipe in half. So I'll stick with the removal tool, till I find an olive it cannot remove.
Paul
My dad always uses the hacksaw method. But being a clumsy sod, knowing my luck I would cut the pipe in half. So I'll stick with the removal tool, till I find an olive it cannot remove.
Paul
The olive cutter/splitter from Rothenberger I mentioned above really does work far better than the ones from Monument, which quite often don't actually do the job! They sometimes only partially cut one side of the olive, and can cut into the pipe itself, leaving it more difficult to seal onto with the new olive.
Another problem with the Monument cutters (apart from needing one cutter for 15 and one for 22mm) is that the handles open so wide you can barely get a good grip on them and the leverage is rather poor, especially for the harder brass olives. All in all they are a poorly-designed tool, in my view.
Another problem with the Monument cutters (apart from needing one cutter for 15 and one for 22mm) is that the handles open so wide you can barely get a good grip on them and the leverage is rather poor, especially for the harder brass olives. All in all they are a poorly-designed tool, in my view.
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Carl86
Im considering that rothenberger one myself, used the monument ones before and on certain olives did the job great like its supposed to but I found they had a tendancy to stuggle with others nicking the pipe despite the cutter being held square to the pipe.
Certain cases the olives were that hard to remove I ended up using the junior hacksaw anyway.
Certain cases the olives were that hard to remove I ended up using the junior hacksaw anyway.
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drmartins
I am no expert but I did successfully remove a couple of old stuck olives by heating the olive with a blowtorch as locally and quickly as possible and then carefully pullling/sliding it off with pliers from behind. You need to be careful to catch the hot olive! Maybe not the best solution from a Health & Safety perspective.
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Mike Jackson
I was looking at buying the Rothenberger one until yesterday when my manager turned up and presented me with one. I was made up with it. The monument cutters are coming out of my toolbox to live in the van as an emergency back up. I may stroke them now and again to satisfy my tool fetish but I'll be using the rothenberger cutter most of the time.
Mike
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