Unvented Cylinder Megaflow installation

[mouspof]

Is it the law to require a G3 Certificate to install or touch an unvented cylinder?

Thanks.

 

[vern]

Is it the law to require a G3 Certificate to install or touch an unvented cylinder?

Thanks.

Not law but against building regs, no biggie you say? Say that to a job I went to whose insurance won't pay out, due to he fitted it himself, but discharge was incorrect, backed up and flooded house via ceiling not nice, insurance companies are certainly employing more trade related staff to sniff this out, I saw their survey!

 

[SimonG]

Everybody is cutting costs. Insurers look for anything these days. People think they can save a few quid. False economy when it all goes breasts up.

 

[Robert Tyrrell]

That's why I paid to get my UDHW ticket.

 

[mouspof]

Not law but against building regs, no biggie you say? Say that to a job I went to whose insurance won't pay out, due to he fitted it himself, but discharge was incorrect, backed up and flooded house via ceiling not nice, insurance companies are certainly employing more trade related staff to sniff this out, I saw their survey!

Thanks, so there is no way building regs could pass an unvented cylinder without checking the plumbers credentials?

 

[kirkgas]

The paperwork submitted but the plumber or client should include the qualifications of the installer, you would imagine the first thing the council would do would be check they were relevant

 

[lame plumber]

Not law but against building regs, no biggie you say? Say that to a job I went to whose insurance won't pay out, due to he fitted it himself, but discharge was incorrect, backed up and flooded house via ceiling not nice, insurance companies are certainly employing more trade related staff to sniff this out, I saw their survey!

if building regs arent based on law, then you wouldnt be able to be prosecuted for not complying with them!, so yes it is the law to be qualified to work on unvented systems, by a circuitous route though.

 

[chris watkins]

Not law but against building regs, no biggie you say? Say that to a job I went to whose insurance won't pay out, due to he fitted it himself, but discharge was incorrect, backed up and flooded house via ceiling not nice, insurance companies are certainly employing more trade related staff to sniff this out, I saw their survey!

I would say they break the law (see below), G3 requires the person to be competent & goes on to say that this is done by holding the Certificate (hot water / part G ticket).
6.3 If a person carrying out building work contravenes the BuildingRegulations, the local authority or another person may decide totake them to the magistrates’ court where they could be fined upto £5000 for the contravention, and up to £50 for each day thecontravention continues after conviction (section 35 of the BuildingAct 1984). This action will usually be taken against the builder or main contractor, although proceedings must be taken within6 months of the offence (section 127 of the Magistrates CourtsAct 1980). Alternatively, or in addition, the local authority mayserve an enforcement notice on the owner requiring them to alteror remove work which contravenes the regulations (section 36of the 1984 Act). If the owner does not comply with the noticethe local authority has the power to undertake the work itselfand recover the costs of doing so from the owner. http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/responsibilities/buildingregulations/failure

 

[vern]

I would say they break the law (see below), G3 requires the person to be competent & goes on to say that this is done by holding the Certificate (hot water / part G ticket).
6.3 If a person carrying out building work contravenes the BuildingRegulations, the local authority or another person may decide totake them to the magistrates’ court where they could be fined upto £5000 for the contravention, and up to £50 for each day thecontravention continues after conviction (section 35 of the BuildingAct 1984). This action will usually be taken against the builder or main contractor, although proceedings must be taken within6 months of the offence (section 127 of the Magistrates CourtsAct 1980). Alternatively, or in addition, the local authority mayserve an enforcement notice on the owner requiring them to alteror remove work which contravenes the regulations (section 36of the 1984 Act). If the owner does not comply with the noticethe local authority has the power to undertake the work itselfand recover the costs of doing so from the owner. http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/responsibilities/buildingregulations/failure

Yeah now you mention it Chris both Armley and Wakefield prisons near me have a full wing, next to the murders for people who have not not complied with BR.........seriously I do "wish" it was the case though lol

 

[Ray Stafford]

I think the difference is the criminal vs civil law.

No policeman is going to come round and arrest you for breaches of G3. That doesn't mean that you won't eventually find yourself in court, or with other serious issues, like being unable to insure or sell a property.

 

[vern]

I think the difference is the criminal vs civil law.

No policeman is going to come round and arrest you for breaches of G3. That doesn't mean that you won't eventually find yourself in court, or with other serious issues, like being unable to insure or sell a property.

Yeah that's how i see it, and what has actually happened

 

[albatross]

Is it the law to require a G3 Certificate to install or touch an unvented cylinder?

Thanks.

Yes, building regs are law and you need to be qualified every 5 years and register the installation with building control.

 

[kozak1968]

I think you can get it signed off by building control for a fee.... £300 or there about