Viper Gas or Bpec training manual?

[markadams]

Hi,

I will soon be starting a Gas foundation course and would like to do some homework before starting the course. I am wondering if anyone knows if the Bpec manual or The Viper Gas manuals are better?

Or

Maybe someone can recommend something else?

 

[Blake]

I used the BPEC when I did my reassessments last year, although the college has the NEIC books which were very good.

 

[markadams]

Hi,

Did you prefer the NEIC or the Bpec manuals?

Mark

 

[Blake]

I preferred the NICEIC to be honest. Link here;

NICEIC - approving excellence

 

[markadams]

Thank you,

The course uses the Bpec training material but I think it would be good to get a different perspective so I think I will go for the Viper of NICEIC manuals.

Any opinions about the Viper Manuals?

 

[Blake]

Not seen Viper, but too be honest, if the college uses bpec, it probably best to go with that. May get confusing otherwise, best if you are all singing from same hymn book so to speak.

 

[erpkid]

Viper are good and have mobile options for your smartphone if that is important.

 

[markadams]

Viper are good and have mobile options for your smartphone if that is important.

Smartphone, is that one that can make the coffee? If I knew they existed I would have got one long ago :cheesy:


Blake:
Good point about sticking to the same material, I would have thought that the factual information would be the same, just thought it maybe a different/better method of teaching?

 

[kirkgas]

When we run foundation courses we allow candidate to take their Bpec book away once they have paid their deposit, on the strict understanding that we won't start answering questions ahead of the course because you read something you don't understand because we haven't covered it yet, it's annoying to be asked these questions at break time from a module 3 or 4 ahead of the whole class, I appreciate people like to study etc but its set out in a logical order for class training so it's obvious you won't understand some stuff till you are taught it

 

[markadams]

When we run foundation courses we allow candidate to take their Bpec book away once they have paid their deposit, on the strict understanding that we won't start answering questions ahead of the course because you read something you don't understand because we haven't covered it yet, it's annoying to be asked these questions at break time from a module 3 or 4 ahead of the whole class, I appreciate people like to study etc but its set out in a logical order for class training so it's obvious you won't understand some stuff till you are taught it

This is an interesting perspective, I was just trying to read up a little as I have never done any Gas plumbing (several years of water plumbing) and did not want to be left behind.

Out of interest how many days training do your students have for the gas foundation course?

Maybe it would be better for me to start the course and see how I get on??

 

[kirkgas]

There's no prob with reading on a bit but TBH it depends why, I've had students who read on just to be smarty pants and quote something the other guys don't know but it just annoys everyone haha
But some people just like to get on and read it, but the issue is it might confuse you
Technically there are 2 foundation courses, 6 months full time split 50:50 classroomlacement doing gas work if you have no previous plumbing quals
If you are a time served plumber you can do the CAT 2 foundation which is 6-8 weeks class with an appropriate time on site building up a portfolio of evidence ( the time scale depends on the type of work you do on placement)

 

[markadams]

Just sent you a PM, hope you dont mind.

Mark.

 

[Rob Sale]

Bpec has stuff wrong in it, Viper is better. But it is what you are forced to use at the training centre that decideds. At Carnegie college we used viper then i moved over to south Lanarkshire college they used BPEC book which i hated. found the writing in bpec to small for when you need to scan in exams.

 

[buckley plumb]

I preferred the NICEIC to be honest. Link here;

NICEIC - approving excellence

is there any where you can preview some pages to see if you like it

 

[markadams]

Hi Buckley Plumb,

It would be great if I could preview them but I have not come across anywhere that has samples, do you know anywhere?