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Sounds like a nightmare, training one apprentice is bad enough, Imagine a class full of teenagers who can barely work up the energy to breathe.
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ived heard pay is bad and most still plumb in there spare time, i know a few quite after a few months to go back on the tools
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I’ve lectured in college, a lot want you to have a formal qualification in teaching these days. There is quite a lot in the background, planning stuff etc. And engineering colleges often have either corporate or international students come over during the summer so it’s not like a school teacher necessarily who gets 6 weeks off. A lot of the kids don’t really want to be there and managing behaviour is quite hard. It can be rewarding to pass on your experience.
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if you could lecture to adults and not kids who will constantly disrupt things I would like to think I would like to teach . I wouldn’t have the patience with the kids.
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The classroom type guys who wore a shirt were on about £30k, the guys teaching workshop stuff were on a bit less. The guy leading each discipline was on £45-50k. The guys I waited with seemed to do about 3 days a week of work and a couple of days tinkering with personal projects. Comes with a decent pension which most jobs don’t these days.
I only dipped in and out of it to teach specific stuff. I think the craft guys who wanted to be on the tools would have been hard work if you were the one tasked with teaching them something dry.
As John says would be good if you could stick to adults.
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I don’t want to burst your bubble but..........
The reality is you must gain a formal teaching qualification (in your own time). The contact (actual teaching)hours may seem short at 6hrs a day.
However, the administration, preparation, marking etc. can be endless.
Usually with no help or support. Teaching ‘full time’ students who have little or no interest in plumbing. Then having to meeting success targets, set my management, to qualify for funding.
All overseen by Awarding Bodies who are also vying for funding.
If this appeals to you go for it.
The reality is you must gain a formal teaching qualification (in your own time). The contact (actual teaching)hours may seem short at 6hrs a day.
However, the administration, preparation, marking etc. can be endless.
Usually with no help or support. Teaching ‘full time’ students who have little or no interest in plumbing. Then having to meeting success targets, set my management, to qualify for funding.
All overseen by Awarding Bodies who are also vying for funding.
If this appeals to you go for it.
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Wasn’t when I did instrument stuff, same level same department. Job add here says advantage if you have one or willing to work towards.
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Interesting from @Tea-Break , when I was at plumbing school , ok a lot of years ago we had two lecturers that I am 100% sure had no teaching quals in-fact one was still running a business. As far as I can remember they were only part time but I cant see how that would make any difference.
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I am in a position where I am being asked to step up from my job as Plumbing Workshop Technician to plumbing lecturer. One of our two full-time lecturers is now on a phased retirement plan and they've got me in their sights to replace him. The thing is I do not want it!
Firstly it is true one can start without any teaching qualifications but they will want me to do a Certificate in Education which is no mean feat with a heck of a lot of self study in my own time. Before doing that you will need to do a Level 3 Award in Education and Training and also Level 3 in Training and Quality Assurance (TAQA 3). I already have my Level 3 Award in T & E so I can perform sickness cover and also teach the schools links program. I am happy at that level as far as teaching goes. I am also now part way through my TAQA 3 but I am doing this voluntarily just so I can help out with assessment in the workshops and take some pressure off the lecturers who treat me very well so I'm happy to help.
The money goes up if I become a lecturer and so do the holidays but the thing is my pay increase would be "only" another 5 grand a year and that's not enough for me to abandon my Technician's role which I love and would not be able to go back to as it is a highly sought after position here and it would be quickly filled behind me. The holidays are much better for teaching staff but again, I'm already on 26 days paid leave per annum which is enough for me. Second to that, I also am on the tools for the Estates Management team during workshop downtime and academic holidays which I do enjoy as a change of pace and type of work and that would end if I became a lecturer.
Finally, I have spent the last seven years listening to the lecturers complain about workload, scrutiny, meetings, problem students, constant performance monitoring and management. That has put me right off. I see what they have to do and don't want it!
I know this post has been specific to my position but hope it is useful to read about it from a perspective right on the edge of a teaching role. A role I do not want for the extra hassle involved. We are fortunate here that wages are high (high cost of living though) and the Technicians at this trade school are paid at the "going rate" for a qualified plumber working for a company on this island. They want qualified plumber as Technicians and not just storemen so they pay the going rate. It all looks like too much hassle when I am already very happy doing what I do.
Of course, your experience and personality will be different but it's not for me and I hope I've given good reason why.
Sorry to ramble for so long!
I am in a position where I am being asked to step up from my job as Plumbing Workshop Technician to plumbing lecturer. One of our two full-time lecturers is now on a phased retirement plan and they've got me in their sights to replace him. The thing is I do not want it!
Firstly it is true one can start without any teaching qualifications but they will want me to do a Certificate in Education which is no mean feat with a heck of a lot of self study in my own time. Before doing that you will need to do a Level 3 Award in Education and Training and also Level 3 in Training and Quality Assurance (TAQA 3). I already have my Level 3 Award in T & E so I can perform sickness cover and also teach the schools links program. I am happy at that level as far as teaching goes. I am also now part way through my TAQA 3 but I am doing this voluntarily just so I can help out with assessment in the workshops and take some pressure off the lecturers who treat me very well so I'm happy to help.
The money goes up if I become a lecturer and so do the holidays but the thing is my pay increase would be "only" another 5 grand a year and that's not enough for me to abandon my Technician's role which I love and would not be able to go back to as it is a highly sought after position here and it would be quickly filled behind me. The holidays are much better for teaching staff but again, I'm already on 26 days paid leave per annum which is enough for me. Second to that, I also am on the tools for the Estates Management team during workshop downtime and academic holidays which I do enjoy as a change of pace and type of work and that would end if I became a lecturer.
Finally, I have spent the last seven years listening to the lecturers complain about workload, scrutiny, meetings, problem students, constant performance monitoring and management. That has put me right off. I see what they have to do and don't want it!
I know this post has been specific to my position but hope it is useful to read about it from a perspective right on the edge of a teaching role. A role I do not want for the extra hassle involved. We are fortunate here that wages are high (high cost of living though) and the Technicians at this trade school are paid at the "going rate" for a qualified plumber working for a company on this island. They want qualified plumber as Technicians and not just storemen so they pay the going rate. It all looks like too much hassle when I am already very happy doing what I do.
Of course, your experience and personality will be different but it's not for me and I hope I've given good reason why.
Sorry to ramble for so long!
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The Teaching Qualifications is mandatory now (OFSTED requirement),
although you can teach while training.
On the other hand the actual trade qualification requirements have dropped. From Level 3 (Advanced Craft) to Level 2 (Craft)..!!
The average salary is 30k.
F.E. Colleges are no longer run by local authorities, they are now businesses having to prove they qualify for government funding.
This involves complex criteria, hence as in any business they are trying
to cut costs and maximise efficiency. This has and will impact on pay and conditions for staff.
Unfortunately, as the older generation of staff retire then the past standards and expectations retire with them.
I am not politically minded. However, I do believe Healthcare and Education. Should not be run for profit.
although you can teach while training.
On the other hand the actual trade qualification requirements have dropped. From Level 3 (Advanced Craft) to Level 2 (Craft)..!!
The average salary is 30k.
F.E. Colleges are no longer run by local authorities, they are now businesses having to prove they qualify for government funding.
This involves complex criteria, hence as in any business they are trying
to cut costs and maximise efficiency. This has and will impact on pay and conditions for staff.
Unfortunately, as the older generation of staff retire then the past standards and expectations retire with them.
I am not politically minded. However, I do believe Healthcare and Education. Should not be run for profit.
The pay said 24k to 32K. Would depend on what side of the scale that was on.
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