ADVICE PLEASE MINIMUM CLEARANCE ON A COMBI FLUE

[Peter T]

Good Afternoon

Please can anyone confirm what the minimum distance the top of the flue pipe should be from the eaves and guttering if the flue is extended so the end of the flue is past the fascia and gutters and releases any gasses
into the open air. I have an Intergas 28/24 combi boiler
In the manual it says that minimum distance from the eaves is 200mm and gutters 75mm, but these measurements apply to a wall terminal and not a flue that is not extended beyond the fascia and gutters.

I have been told that on Valliant boilers the minimum distance in this scenario is 25mm.

Any advice will be much appreciated. The boiler has been fitted by a gas safe engineer for two years and I worry the clearance is not correct.

Thank you
Peter

 

[ShaunCorbs]

25mm normally aslong as it’s past the front of the gutters

If not anywhere from 200-300 mm

 

[Aire]

As Shaun says but here's the proof to put your mind at ease

 

[Peter T]

Hello Shaun
Thank you for your swift response. It should be ok then but the engineer cut it into the fascia board when fitting it so I have always been concerned and it doesn’t look good . I think he could have lowered the boiler when he fitted it but took the easiest option .
Thanks again
Peter

 

[Peter T]

Thank you Craig

You both have been very helpful. That makes it very clear .

Peter

 

[rpm]

You been worrying about this for two years?

 

[Peter T]

I see it every day and it niggles you when you see it. But the chap who installed it assured me that it was ok. But I have wanted to change the soffit boards so I was always worried there wasn’t enough clearance but it should be ok now.
Yes I do over analyse things
Thanks again

 

[Scott_D]

Post a picture

 

[Peter T]

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Not great but nothing unsafe

 

[S.P.S.]

Il be honest, I would not be happy with that as a finished job.....
Brick work is horrendous and he’s clearly got the flue too close to the soffit and fascia so cut it to comply with the min 25mm. It’s hard to see exactly how close it it, but I wouldn’t say it’s “condemnable”!

The Pressure relief pipe also needs to face into the wall, not straight down!
Potentially 80+degree water sprayout... needs to hit the wall to cool and dissipate the flow!

Stu.

 

[Aire]

Agree with above, looks a mess but apart from the prv, it is technically safe. How is that condensate fixed? Hard to tell on the pic but it looks like the 1 1/4" elbow is just hovering over the condensate pipe. Is there actually a reducer in the fitting?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Agree with above, looks a mess but apart from the prv, it is technically safe. How is that condensate fixed? Hard to tell on the pic but it looks like the 1 1/4" elbow is just hovering over the condensate pipe. Is there actually a reducer in the fitting?

Air gap but look like the elbows moved as there is a rough cement line where it was

 

[S.P.S.]

Looks that way Craig!

 

[Peter T]

Hello
I know I have had other issues as well. I was very disappointed with the work that was done. With hindsight I wish I had used someone else but I trusted this person.

You learn by your mistakes.

Thank you again for all your advice and commnents
It’s great to get some sound. professional and impartial advice.

Much appreciated
Peter

 

[Scott_D]

Looks like an ideal flue. Do Intergas use the same?
I wonder how good/bad it looks inside

 

[Riley]

Pics??

 

[Peter T]

Sorry was driving these are some pics it was a bit messy as I am doing some work to the flat

 

[Peter T]

The 2 pictures of the hole is
Where I had taken one of the reads off to plaster. He had just left the hole in the wall where the old heater was. Same in the other bedroom.
As I said I have had several issues.

 

[S.P.S.]

@scott_d intergas and ideal flues look the same, but I couldn’t say if they are the same, I’ve never compared the two side my side!

It would be interesting to see the inside install, but I don’t think the OP will want even more criticism to worry about!!

Stu.

 

[S.P.S.]

I don’t think any of us could reasonably say if there’s anything further to be concerned about with the install. It looks reasonable inside, as you can’t see much in the way of pipework.

The holes in the wall are obviously not on.

If I were you I’d get a new heating engineer who can give the system a thorough check if you are still concerned. System water condition is one thing that should be checked.

Stu

 

[Scott_D]

@scott_d intergas and ideal flues look the same, but I couldn’t say if they are the same, I’ve never compared the two side my side!

It would be interesting to see the inside install, but I don’t think the OP will want even more criticism to worry about!!

Stu.

Do they allow white on show externally?

 

[Peter T]

Thank you to all who have responded. It’s good to know is looks safe if not good workmanship.

Very Much appreciated
Have a good weekend
Peter

 

[Steve weightman]

The flue is'ant sealed around as the products of combustion can get into the loft can't be passable surely

 

[S.P.S.]

Good point, I can’t answer that, we all know Ideals aren’t allowed it! @scott_d

Stu

 

[S.P.S.]

The flue is'ant sealed around as the products of combustion can get into the loft can't be passable surely

That isn’t an issue per say, the plume is directed past any over hangs/protrusions that could effect the clearance of flue products. You could quite acceptably have a vented soffit board running right the way across. Most eaves are ventilated in some manner.

Stu.

 

[Sharp Point]

Before you all carry on casting judgement, just bear in mind that you’ve no idea how much the job cost to install and what was agreed before the job commenced.

 

[Scott_D]

Before you all carry on casting judgement, just bear in mind that you’ve no idea how much the job cost to install and what was agreed before the job commenced.

Agreed on the bricking up/making good
But it needs to meet regs and I think thats what everyone else was concerned with

 

[Sharp Point]

The picture of the pressure relief could be deceiving and actually very slightly aim towards the wall. The cut out of the fascia is due to the height of the boiler being mounted so high and that’s been done to due to making up the hole on the day of install, so the bracket has been fixed just above the square hole. But the flue meets regs, so nowt more to see here.

 

[Sharp Point]

And as I posted previously, we don’t know the cost or verbal contract between either the homeowner or landlord.