blow off not back to wall

[Millsy 82]

Just make a note of it on service sheet or cp12 and move on to the next. Gas safe told me the same as masood that it's not covered under the gas regs so just note it down.

 

[plumben]

Yep! That totting up rule only applies to flueless appliances.

OP - PRV not turned back to wall is not covered under GUISP therefore can't be classed as NCS or AR. I had a similar one where it was straight through the wall at head height, right above a footpath. Not even an elbow pointing down. Gas Safe said it's outside gas scope so outside scope of GUISP.

So in this case if you couldn't rectify the blow off there and then or if landlord/home owner didn't want you too,
Would you just make a note in the defects box on the cp12 to cover yourself

 

[IDCHAPPY]

Yip, still recommend it gets sorted ASAP though

 

[REDSAW]

AR in my book, i just tell them straight charge £20 why u there easy money

 

[lame plumber]

as before not a gas safe issue, but just make it right and charge them accordingly

 

[heliotrope]

The totting up rule applies when two or more specific flueing and/or ventilation related situations
are identified as NCS it may be appropriate to treat the situation as AR.

I am quite sure that no such situation applies to any amount of ARs on any type of appliance would
be elevated to ID. (I would be happy to be put right if anyone can point to the regulation applying
to this)

 

[newcastle phill]

Yep! That totting up rule only applies to flueless appliances..

I dont think that's quite right masood.
Applies to more than flueless for sure

 

[jase158]

In college I got told 2 x NCS = ar, 2 x ar = ID on all appliances.
surely this is an unvented issue under G3 regulations isn't it?

 

[Masood]

So in this case if you couldn't rectify the blow off there and then or if landlord/home owner didn't want you too,
Would you just make a note in the defects box on the cp12 to cover yourself

Yep, make a note on CP12, mention on invoice that you strongly advise getting if rectified. Beyond that, it's landlord / homeowners's problem if someone is scalded.

 

[newcastle phill]

2 x ncs so....for eg.

1x ncs compartment clearance measurements not to MI
1x ncs no cross bonding on old consumer unit

= at risk

Nope

 

[Masood]

In college I got told 2 x NCS = ar, 2 x ar = ID on all appliances.
surely this is an unvented issue under G3 regulations isn't it?

That is definitely not correct AFAIK. More than happy to be corrected if someone can find an authoritative reference.

 

[Masood]

I dont think that's quite right masood.
Applies to more than flueless for sure

That's what I was told by Gas Safe. I'm more than happy to be corrected if you can find a reference. I looked for a definitive answer before ringing Gas Safe and couldn't find one.

 

[dancinplumba]

2 ncs on flue and ventilation is ar ? Where is kirk

 

[newcastle phill]

That is definitely not correct AFAIK. More than happy to be corrected if someone can find an authoritative reference.

Tb001 refers to multiple ncs for flueing and ventilation issues.
It does not state flueless.
Infact the example it uses is specifically open flued

 

[tamz]

That is definitely not correct AFAIK. More than happy to be corrected if someone can find an authoritative reference.

Its pish Mas

2 x NCS on an open flue could be escalated to an AR following a risk assessment and using your engineering judgement.
As the bus with the engineering judgement left around 1985 most would automatically AR it :lol: