Condense discharge - no easy solution

[Best]

This is a common problem where I have to install a condensing boiler and there is nowhere to discharge the condense.
I have an oil boiler to install in a garage and there is only a rainwater gulley close by.
To install a condense trap in the ground is too much work.
I am thinking of using something internal to neutralise the discharge first, before running it to outside.
What would you recommend?
Is there a simple solution?

 

[rpm]

If pumping to outside then there are lots of choices.

 

[Best]

If pumping to outside then there are lots of choices.

I won’t be pumping it. The garage is above ground level and the rainwater gulley is about 3m away.
Just thought if I can comply with regs to neutralise the condense inside the garage first somehow, then just run to gulley outside

 

[rpm]

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[king of pipes]

Not a problem best fit a pot in the ground it's a 2 hours job at most fill with limestone chippings up size the condense waste pipe to 32mm and lag up . Or you can get a inline neutraliser again upsize to 32mm after this and connect into the rainwater gully but make sure you have a air break incase of the drainage backs up and lag up . Kop

 

[Aire]

I won’t be pumping it. The garage is above ground level and the rainwater gulley is about 3m away.
Just thought if I can comply with regs to neutralise the condense inside the garage first somehow, then just run to gulley outside

I'm confused, why do you need to neutralise the condensate before running it to a gulley?

 

[Harvest Fields]

I'm confused, why do you need to neutralise the condensate before running it to a gulley?

Presume he means the little grill
Outside the garage door? Could be wrong though.

 

[rpm]

Presume he means the little grill
Outside the garage door? Could be wrong though.

Same here.

 

[Pickwickpick]

I'm confused, why do you need to neutralise the condensate before running it to a gulley?

i think its because its a rain water, rather than general sewage drain.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Edit due to change of mind

 

[Pickwickpick]

If the rain water goes to the main soil and not a soakaway you can use it.

The way I read the post was that it didn't go to the main soil, but could be wrong.

 

[Harvest Fields]

The way I read the post was that it didn't go to the main soil, but could be wrong.

That’s what I presumed as well. He used the word gulley.

 

[Aire]

Ok so if the rainwater goes to a soakaway do you have to use the neutraliser? I guess that would be the same if you created your own soakaway?

 

[rpm]

Ok so if the rainwater goes to a soakaway do you have to use the neutraliser? I guess that would be the same if you created your own soakaway?

Yes & Yes.
(Note I didn`t take a cheap shot about common knowledge)

 

[Pickwickpick]

Ok so if the rainwater goes to a soakaway do you have to use the neutraliser? I guess that would be the same if you created your own soakaway?

Yep when you create a condensate specific soakaway you put the lime chippings in there to neutralise, if its going to a general rainwater soakaway you have to do it beforehand.

(still in middle of studdying for my gas safe so might not be 100%)

 

[rpm]

Yep when you create a condensate specific soakaway you put the lime chippings in there to neutralise, if its going to a general rainwater soakaway you have to do it beforehand.

(still in middle of studdying for my gas safe so might not be 100%)

Correct.

 

[Aire]

Ok, good to know. I haven't yet needed to use a soakaway so atleast I know for future. No comment on rainwater gullys

 

[Harvest Fields]

Just realised this is public. Sorry @Best. I’m done.

 

[rpm]

Just realised this is public. Sorry @Best. I’m done.

Don`t see a problem in this context tbh, might encourage the kitchen fitters to do it properly.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Don`t see a problem in this context tbh, might encourage the kitchen fitters to do properly.

Still condense work being talked about in a public forum. Should be at least in the arms.

 

[rpm]

Still condense work being talked about in a public forum. Should be at least in the arms.

Done a disagree NOT a dislike, lets wait and see.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Just my opinion not to comment on it anymore mate that’s all. You can comment all you want. But I have the GSR badge and it is my A**e on the line when someone doing illegal works points to this website after installing there own boiler with a soakaway. @ShaunCorbs may say it’s fine but still only my opinion.

 

[rpm]

That`s fine mate, we`ve all got one. However I think it is the forum rather than you as a member who COULD be on the line as you say however unlikely that may be.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

dont need to be gas safe to do the condy and its an oil boiler so gas regs dont apply hell oftec arnt that bothered

 

[Harvest Fields]

Is still rather not comment.

 

[snowhead]

it is my A**e on the line when someone doing illegal works points to this website after installing there own boiler with a soakaway.

Then all you'd need to do was point out the discussion was about an Oil Boiler.

(beaten to the Oil bit by Shaun)

 

[Best]

Thanks everybody for replies.
Yes, the only place I can discharge into is a rainwater gully.
It is an oil boiler job, although I suppose no different than gas.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks everybody for replies.
Yes, the only place I can discharge into is a rainwater gully.
It is an oil boiler job, although I suppose no different than gas.

im guessing separate not combined?

 

[Harvest Fields]

Then all you'd need to do was point out the discussion was about an Oil Boiler.

(beaten to the Oil bit by Shaun)

No idea about oil to be honest mate.

 

[Best]

im guessing separate not combined?

Yes, separate according to customer and the house is only 20 year old, so I think he is correct. Just a rain water down pipe goes to it.
Really want to avoid lifting paving slabs and digging outside as too time consuming.

 

[Best]

No idea about oil to be honest mate.

Think it is just same as gas really.

 

[Pickwickpick]

Looks like an inline neutraliser is your best bet then.

Yes, separate according to customer and the house is only 20 year old, so I think he is correct. Just a rain water down pipe goes to it.
Really want to avoid lifting paving slabs and digging outside as too time consuming.

Looks like an inline neutraliser and piping to the gully is your best bet then .

 

[Best]

Looks like an inline neutraliser is your best bet then.


Looks like an inline neutraliser and piping to the gully is your best bet then .

Never fitted one yet, but am thinking that would offer an easy solution.
I have to install some oil boilers in one day if possible and those little parts to the job would take too long.

 

[Pickwickpick]

Its amazing how much time those 'little' extra bits end up taking ***ulatively, its something I often massively underestimated when I started out. Definitely looks like fitting one will be a lot faster than lifting slabs and building a soakaway would be.

 

[Best]

Its amazing how much time those 'little' extra bits end up taking ***ulatively, its something I often massively underestimated when I started out. Definitely looks like fitting one will be a lot faster than lifting slabs and building a soakaway would be.

I still underestimate the time to do the “little” jobs.
Looking now for lazy ways out where possible

 

[SimonG]

This is a common problem where I have to install a condensing boiler and there is nowhere to discharge the condense.
I have an oil boiler to install in a garage and there is only a rainwater gulley close by.
To install a condense trap in the ground is too much work.
I am thinking of using something internal to neutralise the discharge first, before running it to outside.
What would you recommend?
Is there a simple solution?

Just fit a standard efficiency boiler

 

[king of pipes]

Just follow the boiler manufacturers instructions regarding the condense disposal bud you will then be complying to the regulations. Kop

 

[Best]

Just fit a standard efficiency boiler

Wish I could. Can you still source standard eff oil boilers? I haven’t asked for any. (I know they are illegal to fit normally).
Using a decent condition second hand standard eff boiler makes a lot of sense.
Can get them free, or for just a few pounds

 

[SimonG]

Hounsfield do them. Had to fit one about 18 months ago with all the paperwork to go with it.

 

[dan_the_plumber]

As far as I know, no-one much bothers about this. I’d say most installers just take condensate to any drain they can