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Hello I'm Moley from Aberdeenshire .

I've just moved house and this one has got solid fuel central heating / oil fired and we want to move the hot water tank up the loft . At the moment its in a cupboard in the living room which is not the best place for it.

But the big problem we have is there is not much hight up in the loft, so do you get a Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in size .

Thanks for any help ,

Moley.
 
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Hi Moley,
I replied to your last post. Yes there are horizontal un-vented hot water cylinders. I cover your area also ;0)
 
This is going to be one for the HEATAS boys because of the solid fuel alliance.

I would of thought the proximity of the cylinder is a safety feature and will prob need to be inspected by someone who has alot more knowledge than me!
 
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mitchellplumber said:
Hi Moley,
I replied to your last post. Yes there are horizontal un-vented hot water cylinders. I cover your area also ;0)
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Thanks for your 2 replies , Have you got ant idea where would be best to get one from ?
 
moley said:
Thanks for your 2 replies , Have you got ant idea where would be best to get one from ?
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My advice was to get a heatas registered installer to check the feasibility of what you want to do. And most importantly. The safety. Do a search on YouTube for exploding water heater.
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

Well its only going directly above the one I've got in my living room , so why would that be a problem ?
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

So you currently have an unvented cylinder? Or a vented cylinder?
 
moley said:
Well its only going directly above the one I've got in my living room , so why would that be a problem ?
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Because you said it is connected to a solid fuel appliance. Because this is the case you have to make sure the system is designed to work on convection. Utilising a special coil within the cylinder. And also the ability to heat the water in the cylinder to a high temp. All in all. The uvhws isn't designed for this.

BUT if you find yourself a good heatas installer they will advise you of how you can achieve what you want


Could you just clarify what heating appliances you have. After reading your op it's a little conflicting

Do you have an oil boiler?
Do you also have a second solid fuel boiler?
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

I always thought you cannot have a solid fuel boiler feeding an unvented hot water cylinder.
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

Kev the gas said:
I always thought you cannot have a solid fuel boiler feeding an unvented hot water cylinder.
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The only way I know of is using an h2 panel, they have an option specifically for the un vented.
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

SimonJohns types quicker than me and more specific !!
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

SimonG knows more than me lol.
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

What do you have at the moment Moley?
What solid fuel?
What boiler?
What cylinder? Vented or un-vented?

Cheers
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

I have a solid fuel coal fire and I also have oil heating , both do the radiators and the hot water , as for the cylinder I have no idea if it vented or not , how do I find that out ?? The boiler is a Camray Compact , but I want to replace this with one that can go outside the house . We also get our water from a well and the water pressure is poor , so we also need to look into a pump that will give us more pressure for the whole house , any ideas ? LOL
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

Doesn't sound good for an un-vented cylinder. You thought about a combi outside boiler? If its space your looking for?
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

You cannot connect an unvented cylinder to a coal fire. It is not allowed, even if you don't like the neighbours. Get someone in who knows what they are doing.


Simon Hetas means nothing much up here. No requirement.
 
I suggest you get Tamz in.
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

Ok so what would you suggest to sort my problem ? and could I do what I wanted to with a vented one ?

As you can see I have NO idea what I'm talking about :laugh3:

So this must mean my one in the living room is vented ??
 
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big bang
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

Depends what height you have in your attic. for cylinder and tank.
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

Too far for me Simon.
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

You would be better getting someone local in to discuss your options and give you a price.
 
mitchellplumber said:
Depends what height you have in your attic. for cylinder and tank.
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I would of thought it was more to do with the length and size and route of primary's
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

Well it does, but he is saying the cylinder can be fitted directly above where it is just now. And i'm guessing its not sitting on the floor. But that's the whole thing here... without actually going to site and viewing the job, it pretty much is a guess. What he also quoted was that the cylinder would have to go horizontal. ( Im guessing, this can not be done) as previously stated.
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

We have only about 1M of hight for the cylinder thats why it has to be horizontal thats the space we have if we keep it close to the fire .

Also I thought we could get rid of the cold water tank , no ??
 
Mitchellplumber: do you have much exp of solid fuel heating systems
 
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moley said:
Also I thought we could get rid of the cold water tank , no ??
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No. There are other options but none of them cheap. Get someone in as if you want to do this, it is not a diy thing.
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

I live in the highlands of scotland.... i'm sure i've come across a few in my time. ;0) SimonJohns: Do you?
 
Clearly not as much as you. But I wouldn't be fitting a uvhws to a coal fire
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

And i've already stated that this can not be done... If you read the last question, he asked if this can be achieved with a vented cylinder. Having it horizontal in the attic.
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

The cylinder we have at the moment is a wolseley open vented indirect double feed coil , so can I have the same as that but a horizontal one
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

probably, but you'll need to get a heating engineer out to check it will fit and for piping and storage tank height.
 
Re: Horizontal Unvented Indirect Hot Water Cylinder that is at least 150 Litres in si

I've just used another option that seams to be working alright with solid fuel and unvented cylinder. Its a heat transfer unitt
 
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