it would have to be a very low kw boiler but thanks for clarifying that makes perfect sense
Eh? You've lost me.
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it would have to be a very low kw boiler but thanks for clarifying that makes perfect sense
Nobody has told you this, you have misunderstood ...it it always from the outside edge and if you don,t no this simple thing you could do with a refresh course.3 assesors have told me from the center of the flue thats why im a tad confused
are you saying that to measure the distance of the flue from the opening you put your tape at the window edge and take it to the end of the flue and measure that distance ?
if everyone is so sure could someone please tell me exactly what regs state word for word
sorry to go back to this guys but think about it if you measure from the center of the flue it makes no difference what the diameter of the flue is you are always measuring from the same point
as i understand it mi' over rule everything building regs get changed at long intervals new products get tested and approved dailyWhatever MI's say, they can't take precedence over building regs (in this case Part J Combustion appliances). It's no great surprise that MI's nearly always just reprint the relevant pages of the regs.
The pages below are taken from the latest issue of Part J. Note the horizontal distance of the flue opening from an opening window of 300mm - this is edge of opening to edge of flue.
See also Note 1:
"An opening here means an openable element such as a window, or a fixed opening such as an air vent. However, in addition, the outlet should not be any nearer than 150mm (fanned draught) or 300mm (natural draught) to an opening in the building fabric formed for the purpose of accommodating a built in element, such as a window frame"
Whatever the MI's say, they can't be less stringent than the building regs and as an installer making holes in buildings for flues, you must take account of the building regs in addition to any MI's. The regs are free to download - it's worth taking a look: Planning Portal - Part J (Heat producing appliances)
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as i understand it mi' over rule everything building regs get changed at long intervals new products get tested and approved daily
looking through the IUP they state the following as the chain of command for info compliance
H&S at work act
GSI&UR
Building standards or regs
specific MI
relevant BS docs
other industry codes of practice etc
MI instructions over ride everything else.
I think you are wrong.. I have always been told MI over ride everything else and this is what we trained out at BGNope.
Just as previously written they don't overide H&S, GSI and building regs
MI instructions over ride everything else.
I think you are wrong.. I have always been told MI over ride everything else and this is what we trained out at BG[/QUO
have a read at your IUP, i have listed the info as it is listed there, and remember the building regs will reference the MI but one that springs to mind is flues next to a boundary of a semi detached borderline, if you quote MI the flue needs to be 300mm from an opening, so you fit the flue on your side of the fence (obviously) and measure and confirm it is 400mm from next doors openable window so you have complied with the MI next door complain to you about the "white smoke" entering their prop, you tell them its nothing to worry about as anything over 300mm is safe, they say "aye right i'm away to the cooncil" who do you think the building control will agree with? (i know they will agree with the neighbour and can issue a non-conformity order making you move the flue, so who's the daddy? the MI or the local building regs?
I think you are wrong.. I have always been told MI over ride everything else and this is what we trained out at BG
have a read at your IUP, i have listed the info as it is listed there, and remember the building regs will reference the MI but one that springs to mind is flues next to a boundary of a semi detached borderline, if you quote MI the flue needs to be 300mm from an opening, so you fit the flue on your side of the fence (obviously) and measure and confirm it is 400mm from next doors openable window so you have complied with the MI next door complain to you about the "white smoke" entering their prop, you tell them its nothing to worry about as anything over 300mm is safe, they say "aye right i'm away to the cooncil" who do you think the building control will agree with? (i know they will agree with the neighbour and can issue a non-conformity order making you move the flue, so who's the daddy? the MI or the local building regs?
I think you are wrong.. I have always been told MI over ride everything else and this is what we trained out at BG[/QUO
have a read at your IUP, i have listed the info as it is listed there, and remember the building regs will reference the MI but one that springs to mind is flues next to a boundary of a semi detached borderline, if you quote MI the flue needs to be 300mm from an opening, so you fit the flue on your side of the fence (obviously) and measure and confirm it is 400mm from next doors openable window so you have complied with the MI next door complain to you about the "white smoke" entering their prop, you tell them its nothing to worry about as anything over 300mm is safe, they say "aye right i'm away to the cooncil" who do you think the building control will agree with? (i know they will agree with the neighbour and can issue a non-conformity order making you move the flue, so who's the daddy? the MI or the local building regs?
white smoke ok, he's celebrating the appointment of a new pope.
Thers some vain people on here.
I think you are wrong.. I have always been told MI over ride everything else and this is what we trained out at BG[/QUO
have a read at your IUP, i have listed the info as it is listed there, and remember the building regs will reference the MI but one that springs to mind is flues next to a boundary of a semi detached borderline, if you quote MI the flue needs to be 300mm from an opening, so you fit the flue on your side of the fence (obviously) and measure and confirm it is 400mm from next doors openable window so you have complied with the MI next door complain to you about the "white smoke" entering their prop, you tell them its nothing to worry about as anything over 300mm is safe, they say "aye right i'm away to the cooncil" who do you think the building control will agree with? (i know they will agree with the neighbour and can issue a non-conformity order making you move the flue, so who's the daddy? the MI or the local building regs?
M.I are right, as they say, follow their dimensions but only as long as it does not cause nuisance, so MI were right.
When we go and fit a boiler we follow the M.I as this is what we are given to do the job. These are written so that they include all relevant regs we need. Some B Regs we need to know like sleeving gas etc, but it does not override M.I as they dont explain how to get gas there only what is required.
white smoke ok, he's celebrating the appointment of a new pope.
i stay in Coatbridge so not many there would complain about that kind of white smoke
although some of us therefore prefer black smoke
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