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[Bernie2]

JIB

Technical Plumber £15

Advanced £13.50

Operative £11.58

Other bits to add on depends where your working and travel distance plus responsibility money.

Plus Pension

Thing is finding a JIB firm. The rates quoted for what seem to be none JIB companies I imagine are about right. Some JIB companies also have bonus schemes, experience tells me you have to work super hard to get it though, no cushy numbers. If your slow your usually the first out.

 

[ecowarm]

Notice the links dont work in post above, this is the first one in Birmingham, Plumber--- Gas safe Domestic and Commercial £8 - £10 per hour

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[h=6]Job No:[/h]SEY/19998

[h=6]SOC Code:[/h]5314

[h=6]Wage[/h]£8.00 TO £10.00 PER HOUR

[h=6]Hours[/h]37.5

[h=6]Location[/h]BIRMINGHAM B30

[h=6]Duration[/h]Temporary

[h=6]Date posted[/h]26 April 2012

[h=6]Pension details[/h]No details held



[h=6]Description[/h]We are looking for Plumbing Engineers to carry out various works on commercial domestic, must have experience Call Mark @ EDS 07831 407474 or 0121 213 0160.

[h=6]How to apply[/h]You can apply for this job by telephoning 0870 7355050 and asking for Mr Mark Darlaston.

[h=6]Employer[/h]EDS


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[peteheat]

Maybe I'd better move up that retirement date, I was getting double that back in the early 80's and Ireland was in a recession at the time, come to think of it I was paying more than the figures quoted.

Me thinks its time for a new union.

 

[ecowarm]

Time for something Pete, not sure a union would sort out this mess and I am a fully paid up member.
I really dont know a way out of it, Licencing plumbers like in the US, Canada and Oz is one way but it would mean more pay out for the already fully qualified and experienced and the training schools would find a way to produce Licenced plumbers in weeks.
IMHO

 

[Ted808]

Window cleaner trainee get £9 an hour... may give that a go? This is getting dire!!

 

[scotty plumber]

The plumbing crash course's are killing the plumbing industry for many reasons and it will continue to do so. Sorry if this post offends anyone but it is the truth

 

[Ted808]

My mate's been working on gas meter stuff for years, now he's been unemployed for months. Yesterday he got a two week job £13.50 an hr, minus bits n bobs. The fella who is running the site, said he keeps getting 'fresh ones' that don't know how to do anything! They don't last...
Maybe if they paid better then they'd get more experienced tradesmen?

 

[ecowarm]

Taken from one of the sponcers (spelling mistake on purpose) web site ..... how to "Train to be a Plumber in 10 days"

This course has been deisgned to give you the time to develop your plumbing skills and knowledge and to enable you to achieve City & Guilds Level 2 unit accreditation.
The City & Guilds assessments are completed in the second week of the course and if required you will be allowed additional plumbing training at no extra cost to ensure that you successfully complete the unit assessments. The second week of the course is spent learning new aspects of plumbing such as heating systems although you will be practicing soldering, pipe bending and using compression fittings when you install the small heating system.
The best way to learn plumbing skills is to practice, practice, practice. This course, as with all our training courses, is intensive and aimed at providing you with as much quality training as possible in the time you are at the centre, therefore you will spend every hour of every day learning and practicing.

This course has an excellent mix of practical training and supporting knowledge training, as it is one thing learning how to practially complete plumbing work in the domestic market but it is another thing knowing the related theory so that you complete the work with no problems and no call backs due to poor work due to poor knowledge. Saying that though you will fit at least two full bathroom suites during the first week of the course as well as install a small heating system during the second week.
There are no more than 10 people on a course at any one time and each person will have their own training bay, tools and materials.
For full details on the what you will do each day please either phone 01782 837007 or call into the centre and see a course in action.
You will complete the following units.
Week 1

• Install a fully operational bathroom suite comprising of a bath, basin and w/c, using copper pipe and end feed fittings.
• Install a fully operational bathroom suite comprising of a bath, basin and w/c, using speedfit pipe and fittings.
• Install a fully operational bathroom suite using a combination of pipe and fittings.
• Use compression fittings and flexi hoses within an installation.
• Complete pipe bending.
• Install a washing machine and a dishwasher.
• Remove and re-fit radiators.
• Know how to fit an outside tap.
• Understand different showers, there suitability for different systems and how to install different showers.
• Understand how to complete repairs to toilets, taps and pipework.
  
• Understanding domestic plumbing systems and drainage systems.
• Understanding fittings, traps, waste products, etc. and their suitable uses, terminology and jargon used.
• Understanding the different methods used to price jobs, dealing with customers and overcoming problems that may arise. You will also be provided with support after completing your course and you are able to contact your tutor, email or call into the training centre to discuss your queries.

[h=2]WEEK 2[/h]

• Complete City & Guilds assessment for level 2 unit certificate.
  

Basic Central Heating including:

• Understanding different systems, open vented, sealed systems. Gravity, hot water and pumped heating. Summer valve system, Y-plan system and S-plan system. Combination and condensing boilers.
• Identify and understand the operation of the integral parts of a central heating system.
• Know how to plan the pipework for a heating system.
• Plan out and INSTALL a heating system such as Y-plan / S-plan.
• Fault finding and repairs of a central heating systemsuch as pump replacement.
• Maintenance of a central heating system.
• Drain, fill and pressurise a system.
• You will understand how the systems work; it is one thing being able to complete the work practically but it is very important that you know how and why so that your work fully functions.
• Understanding the different methods used to price jobs, dealing with customers and overcoming problems that may arise. You will also be provided with support after completing your course and you are able to contact your tutor, email or call into the training centre to discuss your queries.
• Fully answer all your questions related to the trade,you are taught by experienced tradesmen with a passion for the trade, ask as many questions as you wish during the course. You will never hear anyone say 'We don't cover that on this course'; we employ experts in each field so they are able to answer your questions.
• Full support after completing your course. If you have any questions relating to anything that you have covered on your course you are free to contact your tutor or the centre by telephone, email or by calling into the centre. There is no charge for this and you can call at anytime in the future.

Now the photo of completed work on the website is amazing, I would think the Instructor/ Lecturer was a 10 day wonder to looking at the state of the work show below. If "Plumbers" are taught this, and are out the streets "Plumbing" God help us




I do like the position of the pump.

IMHO and not meant to offend anybody or any "Training" school

 

[GQuigley67]

im seriously considering going to oz, my mates over having a ball and is being sponsored so he can stay longer, on $2k a week doing ceilings and partitions, might go for it while im still young rather than regretting it when i'm old fat and bald

 

[ecowarm]

Just found an ad for a plumber job in oz $37.50 P/H dont know what that is in £

 

[ecowarm]

£24p/h

 

[GQuigley67]

higher cost of living but better way of life imho, im only looking for a few years working holiday though nothing permanent

 

[PlumbBobBob]

it's around £24 ph

beat me lol

 

[peteheat]

There was a time the old Cap & Gown meant something, employers and customers insisted on it as if it was the best maybe only way they knew they were employing a "Tradesman".

The tradesman was proud to be able to say, Yes I have served my time and I have the papers to show everyone the qualification that said "He knows his trade".

Maybe its time to tell C&G that they are destroying a system of standards that was recognised worldwide as a symbol of quality and now unless they change their ways a new method of certification will have to be found.

As for the training centres surely there must be a way to have them before the courts for mis-representing the courses they are providing?

I can not see any way that anyone could achieve the knowledge to put themselves forward as a plumber who knows his trade from a ten day course, the ad above is telling the unsuspecting possibly often desperate that they will have the skills necessary to start their business at the end of the course.

Those of us who have been in the trade rarely have a week where we don't come across something new, however it is the foundation of knowledge and experience that allows us to undertake each new project with confidence.

They are a scam on both the existing tradesmen, their trainees and the consumers.

 

[ecowarm]

I totally agree Pete, NVQ, C&Q are now worthless rubbish. I dont know where this will end, plumbers on minimum wage because every other person has a bit of paper to say that they are a plumber. They will soon be giving them away free when you buy a packet of Cornflakes.

I suppose it will slow when the public realise plumbers are not earning megabucks but £8P/H