Recognise this lavatory flush (photos) Removed it from toilet but cant source it.

[365drills]

Anyone recognise the make and model of this dual-flush lavatory flush?


TOILET PUSH BUTTON DUAL FLUSH CISTERN SYPHON VALVE


The buttons have siezed and I cant find the source and make to get a replacement.

Let me know if this looks familar

(PS I took it off and went into local plumbers merchant - Never seen one before)

 

[oz-plumber]

Was it seized or was it not returning to the correct position after flushing.
( water kept passing into bowl )

If the valve wasn't re-seating and kept passing water, you may only need to change the rubber at the bottom.
The rubber has to only expand a little bit to foul the re-seating.
Not sure of the brand you have shown, but can guarantee that many a flushing mechanism has been changed due to expanded rubber seal.

 

[365drills]

Valve is perfect. Whats happening is the buttons in that cartridge have siezed and worn after 40,000 flushes.

(Used ten times a day for 365 days x 12 years)

When you push the flush the white button jams and fails to release. This is despite cleaning, lubing, de-limescaling.

 

[oz-plumber]

Hi Richard,

By my calculations, if your figures are correct, the unit has been flushed 43,800 times over that period - excluding leap years.

I would hazard a guess that you are correct in assuming you will need a replacement flush valve.

Unfortunately, I have never seen this exact model, many similar but not the same.
You may want to try and find a universal type that will suit.

Is their not a name on the suite somewhere or some recognizable marking on the inside of the cistern?

 

[stevetheplumber]

isnt it an old ideal standard one ?

 

[365drills]

Looks quite similar to the Ideal Standard but I think the IS have a grip lock release and this one I have has a twist lock release.

 

[oz-plumber]

Most flush valves have a twist release - from my experience.

Ins't the grip lock for adjusting the height of the valve for the buttons to reach

 

[Centralheatking]

Just get a new one and refit new one about £14.00 instead of lookin for parts for an old unit CHk

 

[365drills]

Normally I would agree but the loo is welded to the lino and the tiles with mastic.

It would mean disturbing the enitre fit to pull the loo out of postion to change the entire syphon valve assembly.

I was HOPING against Hope... That because this is an easy change unit (You simply click it left and it pops out) that the very easy nature of the change means the manufacturer also made it easy to source a replacement.

A bit like changing a toner cartridge in a printer.

I am holding out that someone recognises the make and can advise. Otherwise yes it means pulling out the toilet and fitting a generic replacement.

 

[wiggers]

Looks as though it could be like getting a rudder for titanic!! I would just change it to a siamp optima 50 or a fluidmaster flush valve but good luck mate.

 

[AWheating]

you would think these things would have manufacturers details etched into them, its so annoying when they dont bother doing something very simple that could lead to extra sales. Poor business really.

 

[Aquazone]

Lunns 01252 548711

If they can't help you, give up.

 

[365drills]

I give em a ring in the morning! (Ta) Its 10.40pm and time for my bed....

 

[Clint 1979]

Wholesale Flush Valve --- Sanitaryware(P0303D) - Made in China - #150928

Looks something like this.......good old Chinese!

 

[helpsy]

Get Fluidmaster from Screwfix.

 

[365drills]

Clint yes I think you cracked it. That is very close to the model (if not it)

I have contacted them.. But not sure they are going to be impressed to send one piece (Two at the most) They probably want to send a container load!! Maybe I will tell them I need a sample.

Hey: Maybe ********* should enter the toilet spares market...

I will also call the uk place this morning.

And I will look at the Screwfix Fluidmaster (but I have to confess to not being a fan of Screwfix after a bad experience dealing with their buyers) But hey life moves on and that loo needs another 40,000 flushes.

 

[365drills]

Some great news and update (Thanks Aquazone)

So following Aquazones advice I called Lunns and they helped via email.

The parts are not identical.
But the most important thing is the base fitted.
The only issue was the stack was slightly shoerter than the original.
It looked slightly different too.

But for £65 I managed to salvage my WC for another 40,000 flushes.

There was no way of getting this lavatory out without serious damage to the vinyl flooring and the wall behind. It would have been a refit of the loo and the surroundings.

So thank you to all forum contributors.

YOU DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE

 

[jaydebruyne]

Glad you got sorted 365. I still use your diamond tile bits on my jobs. They're fantastic!! :teeth_smile:

 

[Rabbitman]

Looks like a roca one to me............

 

[365drills]

Not sure if its Roca but I can say (with excitement) that its been in use for two weeks now and has already been used 70 times.

And on Christmas Day the mother in law had no complaints here in this house [so that makes a change!]

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