The Green Deal

[JAH HEATING]

Just reading a bit about it in the monthly mag, I have an old 1920s house that has an old myson Apollo and gravity hot water...

no insulation, or double glazing with me being a landlord if I got an assessor out.... Would the works sThat got carried on, simply go onto the tenants fuel bill ?

I'm going to otherwise get the system changed by myself an pay for the windows to be done

 

[tomplumbuk]

I'm afraid I think its the landlord that gets to pay unfortunately according to this guide - Green Deal For Tenants

'The Green Deal scheme involves the homeowner, in this case your landlord, taking out a loan to fund the improvements needed to bring the property up to the required energy efficient standard.'

 

[Mike Jackson]

Read the next line.

 

[tomplumbuk]

is it not still the landlords debt to pay though whether absorbed through bills over 25 years or not?

 

[CES]

The charge will be paid by the tenant if occupied, if the property is vacant the Landlord foots the bill until the property is let again.

 

[poorman]

How I read it, the cost, bill, is paid through your electricity bill, so if the landlord doesn't use any electricity does he still have to fork out?

 

[CES]

The landlord will still have a standing charge on the meter to pay for the green deal.

 

[eaton]

It's all abit vague this but easy way to look is tenant pays for it on their bills, if they move out ll pays until new tenant in.

 

[tamz]

L/lords can get it done for free through ECO (affordable warmth). Another scheme to kick the small guy in the nuts.

 

[diamondgas]

I do work for a letting agent with loads of old appliances and the type of tenants that'll qualify for ECO ... They're getting all their properties checked out free to see if they qualify for replacement!

Does anyone out there know who gets to do the installs? that is can anyone get the work or do you have to register somewhere or other?

 

[CES]

Youll have to register as an installer and conform to PAS2030 , oh and pay another fee for the pleasure of working.. Im glad Im out of this game now, they wont be happy until the small guy doesnt exist imo.

 

[diamondgas]

Cheers CES ... I thought I'd heard somewhere that you need to pay to be accredited or sub for a credited company for a pittence!!! Looks like my repairs income will be hit too if they get rid of all the old boilers and install 7-10yrs warranty boilers........!!! It sounds like things are going to get a bit harder for anyone wanting to set up or even continue to work as a one man band..!

 

[Kev the gas]

Cheers CES ... I thought I'd heard somewhere that you need to pay to be accredited or sub for a credited company for a pittence!!! Looks like my repairs income will be hit too if they get rid of all the old boilers and install 7-10yrs warranty boilers........!!! It sounds like things are going to get a bit harder for anyone wanting to set up or even continue to work as a one man band..!

Diamondgas,

^^^^ exactly the conversation I had with the Worcester rep on Monday, without sounding too doom and gloom we have a few changes coming in the industry.

So far manufacturers do not seem to be interested in the rest of the central heating system, hopefully this will provide a small amount of work for the future!!

 

[Howsie]

I'm afraid I think its the landlord that gets to pay unfortunately

Quite rightly IMO.

 

[diamondgas]

Diamondgas,

^^^^ exactly the conversation I had with the Worcester rep on Monday, without sounding too doom and gloom we have a few changes coming in the industry.

So far manufacturers do not seem to be interested in the rest of the central heating system, hopefully this will provide a small amount of work for the future!!

It's certainly good news for landlords/tenants and the others able to request a replacement. Who's doing the work though? You can't just 'magic' installers from thin air? I'm guessing this'll push installers to 'lower' their standards and pricing to get at least some work in? With a bit of luck the demand will outweigh these companies workforce and private guys will get the overspill?

Does anyone know how much the accreditation costs? Not that I'm after it as I do maintenance and repair with only the odd one or two installs here and there