Training to fit smart meters (met 1)

[Steven Garden]

Hi guys,
Just a quick question, can a company train you from scratch just to fit smart meters (met1) ? or would you need to train for a ccn1 qualification first/along side? I was under the impression you would need your ccn1 to be registered gas safe ?
Thank you in advance
Kind regards Steve.

 

[Riley]

I stand to be corrected but that is my understanding also

 

[Steven Garden]

I stand to be corrected but that is my understanding also

Thanks for the reply Riley!
I'll find out 100% by Wednesday and answer my own question if nobody knows for sure.

 

[snowhead]

There used to be a short cut into Gassafe by via Met 1 by bypassing CCN1, but it was stopped a good few years ago.

As far as I know and can see on training sites, you need CCN1 to be able to get MET1.

 

[Steven Garden]

There used to be a short cut into Gassafe by via Met 1 by bypassing CCN1, but it was stopped a good few years ago.

As far as I know and can see on training sites, you need CCN1 to be able to get MET1.

 

[Steven Garden]

Thanks snowhead! Brilliant reply that has answered my question Thank you !

 

[JohnnyM]

Yes I finished my ACS training a couple of years ago and you do need your ccn1 to do meters. I applied for a job doing meters and they wanted know you had the qualifications before they would talk to you.

 

[Steven Garden]

We I've just had a message back from the company, and this is what I got:
You gain CMA1 & MET1 enabling you to work on gas meters.
so they train you to get cma1(emergency gas training or meters) instead of ccn1, i presume, wounded ! oh well looks like I'll just pay to get the ccn1 myself in 12 months time then just add on my appliances no biggie! Cheers for the input guys much appreciated!

 

[CHRISX]

We I've just had a message back from the company, and this is what I got:
You gain CMA1 & MET1 enabling you to work on gas meters.
so they train you to get cma1(emergency gas training or meters) instead of ccn1, i presume, wounded ! oh well looks like I'll just pay to get the ccn1 myself in 12 months time then just add on my appliances no biggie! Cheers for the input guys much appreciated!

Hello Steven Garden,

This is NOT a tirade aimed at You - I am just commenting on the attitude of the Company that you are quoting.

When ANY Gas Meter is installed as a replacement for an existing / in use Meter the Gas pipework has to be tested and purged to each Appliance and each Appliance has to be visually checked that they are correctly installed / there are no obvious / visual Safety issues when the Gas is turned back on and re-lit to confirm that they are working.

I find it impossible to understand how any Company or person working with Gas could think that a Meter can be legally fitted for a property that has an existing Gas supply and Appliances without the `Meter Fitter` having not only CCN1 Core Gas Safety but also ALL of the Domestic Appliance ACS categories.

Without CCN1 and the Appliance ACS assessment passes how could a person who had been only Trained & Assessed on CMA1 and MET1 have ANY knowledge for example on whether a Gas Boiler was installed correctly or whether a `Gas Basket Fire` was installed correctly or had the correct `Purpose Provided Ventilation` ?

Those are just 2 examples of the MANY `Safety Critical` decisions that a Gas Safe registered Gas Engineer / Gas Installer would have to have knowledge of when putting Gas Appliances back into service after a Meter was fitted.

I assume that other Members would agree with these comments ?

Chris

 

[Mastermixlee]

I know for a fact that there's a fair few of the big 6 providers with engineers fitting smart meters without the appliance knowledge/qualifications.
They just replace meter, at risk the installation as "unable to confirm safety" and they then issue a free of charge job to one of their qualified maintenance/repair engineers to go round and check/sign off.

Ridiculous setup I know.

As the amount of people I've heard from who have been talked into having a smart meter fitted only for their installation to be left off afterwards as the meter fitted didn't have the knowledge or ticket to remove boiler case for purge/confirm safety.

Supposed to be same day service but I've seen a few where they were left without the followup appt for days/over a week (in winter time may I add)