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Diversion
Hi
Just wondering how people deal with drilling through abestos sheeting in wet areas? 😕
Just wondering how people deal with drilling through abestos sheeting in wet areas? 😕
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plumberdan23
We stop the job if asbestos is suspected and call in the asbestos removal team! its not worth the risk.
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JamesC
You dont drill through asbestos or cut it unless you want to risk getting asbestosis and a bloody big fine for contaminating the house or building it's in.
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Mbear
U don't drill through it, stop work and get the men in white overalls in to remove
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Bernie2
Yes!
I've got mild asbestoses in both lungs through working with it.
And as a check, there is a website which tells you which of the old boilers has got asbestos heat exchanger cladding. So if you go to service them you have to take special care.
I've got mild asbestoses in both lungs through working with it.
And as a check, there is a website which tells you which of the old boilers has got asbestos heat exchanger cladding. So if you go to service them you have to take special care.
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JamesC
having had a brother in law die a terrible lingering death from this dreadful condition I urge you to take heed and call in the specialists my brother in law died aged 43 and left 4 young children that was over 20 years ago but I can remember it as if it was yesterday .its not worth the risk🙁🙁
🙂regards turnpin
🙂regards turnpin
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PlumbBobBob
are you sure it's asbestos and not concrete board/hardi board
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Blackcatgas
Ive got mild AIDS from sharing a toilet seat with Mark Fowler.
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mrlennie
I've got hearing AIDS highly contagious.
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tamz
Have a look through this and take it in
HSE - Asbestos: Asbestos essentials
On another thing, off track but related.
I think glass/rock wool may, in the future, turn out to be another asbestos. Indeed in America it is deemed as "reasonably anticipated to cause cancer in humans"
Most plumbers will spend a good part of their working life exposed to this shyt (as we did in the past with asbestos). It is even worse now that houses are wrapped and wrapped again knee deep in the stuff.
Those smart heads that decided it had to go everywhere should be made to spend a week scraping around under a floor 12" deep with the glass wool rubbing on their face and see how healthy they feel when they are coughing and spitting it out and clawing like a bear.
Who would be a plumber 🙂
From wiki about mineral wool
The EU risk and safety phrases associated with this material in general are:
HSE - Asbestos: Asbestos essentials
On another thing, off track but related.
I think glass/rock wool may, in the future, turn out to be another asbestos. Indeed in America it is deemed as "reasonably anticipated to cause cancer in humans"
Most plumbers will spend a good part of their working life exposed to this shyt (as we did in the past with asbestos). It is even worse now that houses are wrapped and wrapped again knee deep in the stuff.
Those smart heads that decided it had to go everywhere should be made to spend a week scraping around under a floor 12" deep with the glass wool rubbing on their face and see how healthy they feel when they are coughing and spitting it out and clawing like a bear.
Who would be a plumber 🙂
From wiki about mineral wool
The EU risk and safety phrases associated with this material in general are:
- R38 – Irritating to the skin
- R39 – Danger of very serious irreversible effects
- R40 – Possible risk of irreversible effects
- S36/37 – Wear suitable protective clothing and gloves.
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mike_s
jesus didn't realise that but not surprised, I feel stupid for the times I've spent breathing that insulation stuff in when up in a loft. I'll start wearing my dust masks.
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Bernie2
Hi!
Clearly many people do not seem to know much about asbestoses or fibre glass.
You can have degrees of it, but people seem to think its like an ordinary disease.
What may surprise people, is that asbestos can also cause lung lesions.
Which perhaps a far higher number of people have.
I think in Scotland and Wales you can claim compensation off the government for this, but in England you can't. The insurance companies said the claims for asbestos lung lesions in England was so high they predicted they would become difficult to pay, so the government stopped the claims.
Incidentally it was the hospital specialist who said it was in a mild form not me. What the future progression or the speed it progresses, I don't like to think about.
So please go careful and as Tamz says its not only asbestos you want to watch, basically its anything smaller than 3 microns I think, that the body can't digest. Perhaps plastic is involved as well.
You don't it seems have to swallow it, it gets in your blood stream and works through to your lungs.
Clearly many people do not seem to know much about asbestoses or fibre glass.
You can have degrees of it, but people seem to think its like an ordinary disease.
What may surprise people, is that asbestos can also cause lung lesions.
Which perhaps a far higher number of people have.
I think in Scotland and Wales you can claim compensation off the government for this, but in England you can't. The insurance companies said the claims for asbestos lung lesions in England was so high they predicted they would become difficult to pay, so the government stopped the claims.
Incidentally it was the hospital specialist who said it was in a mild form not me. What the future progression or the speed it progresses, I don't like to think about.
So please go careful and as Tamz says its not only asbestos you want to watch, basically its anything smaller than 3 microns I think, that the body can't digest. Perhaps plastic is involved as well.
You don't it seems have to swallow it, it gets in your blood stream and works through to your lungs.
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Diversion
Hi
I meant cement board/hardi board I understand the old stuff has asbestos in it. 😱
I meant cement board/hardi board I understand the old stuff has asbestos in it. 😱
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Bernie2
It may be of interest to somebody if I relate my diagnosis.
I was a member of the Roy Castle Lung experiment in the area, which is testing everybody each year to try and find out why so many in the area have lung problems.
They give you a loads of tests including basic lung performance each year. I have been a member for 11 years and on one visit about 2 years ago the nurse said there had been a drop in my lung flow measurement and she would write to my doctor about it.
Anyway went the docs and they sent me for an x-ray, the doc reckons I was okay the x-ray was clear. But would I like to go to see a specialist anyway, knowing I had worked with asbestos?
So I said okay.
On seeing the specialist, he told me I had asbestoses and sent me for a scan. The upshot was, it detected asbestoses in both lungs. He did say it was mild. The lung function test showed I had lost about 20% of my lung capacity.
So basically I had no idea I had it and it was only the nurse who detected it. I must admit though I had been a bit breathless at times but put it down to being overweight.
It is amazing what the Lord can do if you pray, I thank him always it is only mild and my last x-ray showed my condition as no change.
The frightening thing about asbestoses is that you don't necessarily know you have it, until it starts to effect you.
But it is rather complicated and of course a highly dangerous thing to get.
I read a report once of a guy getting it, when his work record was traced back, it only showed he had been exposed to asbestos for 5 minutes all his life.
Also old Artex has asbestos in it.
My exposure was the usual Plumbers way, roof sheets, lagging, service duct walls and so on, I think.
Let's be honest you never really thought much about it in those days as nobody banned it.
But its still out there by the ton so go careful.
I was a member of the Roy Castle Lung experiment in the area, which is testing everybody each year to try and find out why so many in the area have lung problems.
They give you a loads of tests including basic lung performance each year. I have been a member for 11 years and on one visit about 2 years ago the nurse said there had been a drop in my lung flow measurement and she would write to my doctor about it.
Anyway went the docs and they sent me for an x-ray, the doc reckons I was okay the x-ray was clear. But would I like to go to see a specialist anyway, knowing I had worked with asbestos?
So I said okay.
On seeing the specialist, he told me I had asbestoses and sent me for a scan. The upshot was, it detected asbestoses in both lungs. He did say it was mild. The lung function test showed I had lost about 20% of my lung capacity.
So basically I had no idea I had it and it was only the nurse who detected it. I must admit though I had been a bit breathless at times but put it down to being overweight.
It is amazing what the Lord can do if you pray, I thank him always it is only mild and my last x-ray showed my condition as no change.
The frightening thing about asbestoses is that you don't necessarily know you have it, until it starts to effect you.
But it is rather complicated and of course a highly dangerous thing to get.
I read a report once of a guy getting it, when his work record was traced back, it only showed he had been exposed to asbestos for 5 minutes all his life.
Also old Artex has asbestos in it.
My exposure was the usual Plumbers way, roof sheets, lagging, service duct walls and so on, I think.
Let's be honest you never really thought much about it in those days as nobody banned it.
But its still out there by the ton so go careful.
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thebeatmeister
Thanks for taking the time to write that bernie2. It concerns us all.
Good luck with it.
Good luck with it.
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oldplumber
when in the RN my bunk (bed) was surrounded by lagged pipework and everytime I got up I knocked it an all the contents billowed out, hate to think what I my have in store
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