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There are various types of lease including contract hire, finance lease, hire purchase, contract purchase etc. so know which one is offered and ensure it is right for you.

Other things to consider are payment terms - you'll often be asked for 1 to 3 months up front then spread the payment over the remainder so for a 5 year lease it could show on your contract as 3 + 60 which means 3 upfront and 60 monthly payments.
Also can be with or without maintenance.

You will be contracted to xx miles per annum. If you go over this over the whole lease then there will be excess mileage charges. Go under and often lease companies will not repay the compliment!

Finally there are the fair wear and tear guidelines written by BVRLA. This is what is followed as a rule and if the condition of the vehicle is outside these guidelines then you may receive a 'damage recharge'.

These are he main points to know - the finance advantages have been pointed out. Good for cash flow (no large payout upfront as in purchasing).
Oh yes, if you won't o get out of the lease before it expires there will be early termination fees
 
the thing is if you have a quiet period like a lot of us are having at the moment you will still have to find the dosh to pay the monthly cost if your lease.
 
Some good advice thanks. I was wondering if I would get more MPG out of a new lease vehicle than a 5 to 7 year old van (which is about my limit) with fuel increasing so quickly I wondered if this would help pay for the lease cost.


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To be honest if you're trying to calculate mpg savings I'd be buying an older van rather than leasing a new one. These companies aren't stupid and they'll be making money out of the leased van (or else they wouldn't be in business). To look at this differently, some of your profits are going to another company to keep your company going.

Another factor is some customers might think you're a little on the expensive side if you're travelling around in a new van so might go to a competitor instead. There's nothing wrong with an older van at all. Many think you'll be good value as you don't seem to spend your money on a posh vehicle (but then some customers might think you're not that good as you can only afford an old tatty one!)

Many swings and roundabouts for choosing a new/old van.

If you own a van you can offset the depreciation, expenses, repairs, etc against your profits (and lower your tax liability). If you lease a van you can only offset the expenses of running the van and payments. The difference between these two figures will easily outweigh your mpg savings!!

If you can't afford to buy a van outright you can always get a loan (and offset these payments (hire purchase)). This means the van is yours and is an asset to your business. A leased van is not an asset - only an expense.

As you can see, I'm not a fan of leased vehicles - it's another form of loan and as the country has found out in the last 2-3 years, loans are expensive and have to be paid at some stage.

If you own a van there is a major disadvantage over a leased vehicle. You are responsible for repairs, whereas a leased company has to pay for these. However, new vans (the ones they lease) tend not to require repairs so some of the money you're paying to the leasor is basically an insurance for the leasing company. You'll only win if your van keeps breaking down.

In my experience (of chatting to others) a 6-8 year vehicle will need to go to the garage twice a year - once for service/MoT and the other time for a repair. The time lost is probably less with your own van as the leasing company will probably want a day or two to transport the van to/from its garage as well as the time to repair. A vehicle under 5 years old tends not to need any repair during the year.

We all want new stuff and reliable vans which is why leasing seems attractive - but, in my opinion, it is a very expensive option for running a vehicle.
 
Many thanks for that, some great points - I have given this a lot of thought and I will go with swapping for a sightly newer version of what I have - Vito - getting a bit old, shabby and worn out (the van and me !)


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New van means you'll be forever chasing the depreciation, they won't let you give it back early on a lease, you have to sell the van and pay back the amount which means stumping up the shortfall!

I've agreed a loan with my bank which means I can still claim back the interest as an expense on my tax return. If everything goes wrong and I can't afford to run the van, I can sell it and should get back a similar amount to what i bought it for. The loan equates to £6000 over 48 months = £148 a month 9% APR. About £100 less a month than a new van and I should still be able to get the current model I was looking at so fuel economy shouldn't be much different (in theory)

If you are thinking of getting a newer shape vito, I would advise against. Only because every van sales I have been to have advised against and I don't think any of them had one on the forecourt. They are supposed to be very unreliable, so I am told.

Good luck getting a van mate, i've still not found a decent one thats local, its a pain in the arse!
 
Try getting in touch with a dealer that specialises in ex BT fleet (yes they are genuine as it had their address on the V5, believe it or not!) F.S.H. very low mileage. I bought mine approx 3 years ago and every M.O.T. has been a straight pass, I have replaced tyres though apart from that all good.
May be a little more expensive than private but well worth it in my case. It came with racking and boxes, ladder rack, flashing light (bonus but illegall if your not covered by insurance but nephew likes it), tail gate. Central Heating (disconnected), hot water vessel and most important cup holder, felt like a winner when drove it off the fore court...lol

Dealership in hampshire, west wellow
 
Sounds about right. I did forget to mention that I no longer have 3rd gear! mechanic (local) is telling me need a recon gear box but I think it might have something to do with selector, the garage where I bought it from is cool & will take a look when i have time
 
Try getting in touch with a dealer that specialises in ex BT fleet

i've got an ex BT vauxhall combo which also came with slide out racking and ladder rack
in three and a half years its needed a new EGR (expensive), but apart from that has started every day and never let me down
passed every MOT, with only things like new tyres/wipers etc.

i've also had ex electric company and ex parcel force vans and all these have been excellent.

my parcel force van even had the remains of the posties last dinner in it !!!!
 
Hi, I used to have an ex BT combo, I loved the pull out racking ! Got a bit small for me as i could not get ply / plasterboard / aquapanel in ! (I do a lot of bathrooms) Hence the VITO. I might have a look at the ex BT transits though anyone tried one


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