Liability issue

[richardd]

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[mrlennie]

I am not an expert on the law but I believe as you never signed anything saying you would be liable I don't see you being. Although I have heard verbal contracts not to sure what is included in that. So I don't know basically

 

[oldplumber]

its simple really, you said you carried out the work, therefore its your work thats failed for whatever reason. first off talk to hep as its their fitting thats failed,and as long as you have carried out the commisioning process that hep tell you to do (ie pressure test the systems using hydraulic pressure testing kit upto 1.5 for the specified period iaw wras / manufacturers instructions) and signed off commisioning paperwork etc , hep may well have to cover the costs. otherwise time to talk to your insurers, not a solicitor at this stage surely.

Lesson to all here, follow the required procedures at all times and you lesson the ability of others to sue you and for insurers etc to walk away from covering the costs of failure. Not a nice way to find out tho, good luck with the result

lennie old son ,you might wish to find another trade or spend a little time learning about how you can be sued and what your responsibilities are when work with water/gas etc. You dont have to sign contracts to be liable, your the one doing the work your the one who will be responsible, simple

 

[richardd]

hep wont take resposibilty for this . I did the pressure test but it was never signed of the mechanical contracts manager from the main mechanical contractors never provided myself with the paperwork after requesting it on many occasions.

 

[oldplumber]

future reference, use the comissioning pads from corgi, and you give the forms to them

 

[richardd]

My insurance wont cover due to the break ins. They also stated I should have been covered by the company i was carrying out the work for as I didnt supply materials.

 

[mrlennie]

lennie old son ,you might wish to find another trade or spend a little time learning about how you can be sued and what your responsibilities are when work with water/gas etc. You dont have to sign contracts to be liable, your the one doing the work your the one who will be responsible, simple

I will look into that.

 

[richardd]

Old Plumber . You also have to keep in mind there has been on two occasions break inns at this development were plumbing fixtures and fittings have been tampered with ( sabotage ) . How can anyone guarantee work after that

 

[oldplumber]

time to move and change the mobile, can see where your insurers are coming from and i would get them to throw the ball back at the original contractors insurers and let them argue it out. chat to a solicitor to see about breach of contract by your insurers after all youve paid a premium and they are there to save you, normally, but they do slither away like eels whenever theres money involved. Watchdog etc can be helpful in some siutations, and you can always chat to citizens advice initially as they are free

 

[richardd]

time to move and change the mobile, can see where your insurers are coming from and i would get them to throw the ball back at the original contractors insurers and let them argue it out. chat to a solicitor to see about breach of contract by your insurers after all youve paid a premium and they are there to save you, normally, but they do slither away like eels whenever theres money involved. Watchdog etc can be helpful in some siutations, and you can always chat to citizens advice initially as they are free

I appreciate your response . You know your stuff many thanks



The company who got me to carry this work got there insurers to contact myself. They asked me to admit full resposibility and indemity release from them . Whats does this mean old plumber

 

[oldplumber]

it means they are trying to stich you up. do not ever admit liability or indemnify them (ie take responsibility for the failure) , get help from citizens advice/solicitor to draft letter of response, basically stating the facts, that you were working as an employee not subee (as this was your only employment during the long period of build) and therefore the employers are liable for providing insurance cover esp as they supplied all the stock etc and it was their goods providedthat failed. therefore you are not responsible for any damage as it was fitted correctly and the blame lays with the company supplying/in charge of the installation or the manufacturer. be slippery like the insurers and throw everything back in their court. threaten main contractors that you should have been on their books if you can justify this and threaten to inform tax office etc etc, which can be the bane of any companies life, only try this if all else fails and if the situation did apply.
Similar situation happened to me while back. neighbours house flooded and he blamed me due to work i did on my house. his insurers chased me for costs and all i did was chuck it all back at him ,telling the insurers that he knew of the flood risk due to rainwater run off but had done nothing about it, and been flooded twice before etc etc. never heard from them since (touch wood)