Motrised valves

[850Rick]

Ive read some where that its possible to replace the guts in the motorised valves how true is this?

 

[mountainman]

Yes, it is true.

 

[stevetheplumber]

depends on the make

 

[850Rick]

Is it just the electrics you can only replace or is there changable parts in side as well

 

[Best]

You def can get parts for the inside of some of them, but it prob will cost same or more than complete body.

 

[850Rick]

Ok thanks im at college at the minute.We was talking about these valves as well.Im led to believe that 2 port valves are mainly used in bigger properties with space more than 150 square feet

 

[chris watkins]

Ok thanks im at college at the minute.We was talking about these valves as well.Im led to believe that 2 port valves are mainly used in bigger properties with space more than 150 square feet

How is the painting & decorating course going Rick ???????

 

[chris watkins]

Sorry Rick could not resist that one but if not P&D why are you not asking your teacher these questions ???

 

[mountainman]

How is the painting & decorating course going Rick ???????

You ever considered joining the sparks forum Chris 🙂 🙂

 

[chris watkins]

You ever considered joining the sparks forum Chris 🙂 🙂

NO, because I (like you) like a laugh & luv life !!!!!

 

[GrahamM]

You def can get parts for the inside of some of them, but it prob will cost same or more than complete body.

Well you can replace the balls and motors on the honeywells for a fraction of the cost. If you could be bothered that is!
Replaced faulty motors before.
UK Plumbing | Honeywell Motorised Valves

 

[kay-jay]

You can change the synchron motor but always check the operation with a pair of grips first. If it moves freely then change motor. If not then looking at a full valve replacement or possibly a flush which obviously depends on state of sludge in system which can affect operation.....it can be a good up-sell

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[tamz]

Ok thanks im at college at the minute.We was talking about these valves as well.Im led to believe that 2 port valves are mainly used in bigger properties with space more than 150 square feet

Sounds like you have a top lecturer there.

If you have the patience or inclination, you can strip it down to its component parts (a good way to learn how things work) and change anything on it. There are only 3 parts that can go wrong, well 4 if you count the spring. It is not rocket science.

 

[850Rick]

You can change the synchron motor but always check the operation with a pair of grips first. If it moves freely then change motor. If not then looking at a full valve replacement or possibly a flush which obviously depends on state of sludge in system which can affect operation.....it can be a good up-sell

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Thanks for your reply mate.I dont mind a bit of banter either got to start some where lol.Just finished my first year.

 

[850Rick]

Sounds like you have a top lecturer there.

If you have the patience or inclination, you can strip it down to its component parts (a good way to learn how things work) and change anything on it. There are only 3 parts that can go wrong, well 4 if you count the spring. It is not rocket science.

I like to think i could have a go at repairing some thing first then replace as a last resort.Im a qualified car mechanic by trade and had enough in the garage.Im a hands on person and like to repair things if possible.

 

[tamz]

Unfortunately it is seldom like that in the real world where it comes down to time and money.
Usually changing it takes more time and you get more money and the customer sees what they paid for (which they like).
Sometimes tho, you just don't have the time so you repair it in 5 minutes :smile:

 

[850Rick]

Unfortunately it is seldom like that in the real world where it comes down to time and money.
Usually changing it takes more time and you get more money and the customer sees what they paid for (which they like).
Sometimes tho, you just don't have the time so you repair it in 5 minutes :smile:

Thats fair enough mate lol

 

[mountainman]

Unfortunately it is seldom like that in the real world where it comes down to time and money.
Usually changing it takes more time and you get more money and the customer sees what they paid for (which they like).
Sometimes tho, you just don't have the time so you repair it in 5 minutes :smile:

Crikey, you are good.
Drain system, remove head, dismantle and renovate valve, new ball and O ring, reassemble valve.
Put head back on, change synchron.
Refill system, vent and get it all working again with nae leaks.
All in five minutes.
Were you in the SAS? lol

 

[tamz]

Synchron 5 minutes , microswitch 5 - 10 minutes anything else other than a sticking spring is getting a new valve.

There is a school of thought that says you shouldn't replace these parts as the valve may still play up in the future.
Bolox.
If a diaphragm went on your combi would you buy a new boiler tho I know some who would sell you one for less than that.

Were you in the SAS? lol

Naw i never had the time :lol:

 

[850Rick]

Do you think there is alot of gravity fed systems still about

 

[tamz]

Do you think there is alot of gravity fed systems still about

LOL Probably over a million

 

[850Rick]

Do you think they will all be phased out over time?we have gravity fed heating at college the pipes are huge lol

 

[tamz]

Eventually as systems are upgraded for gas and oil but probably not for another 10 years + at least.
They are still used for solid fuel and always will be to some extent.

 

[850Rick]

Is there any easy way of knowing which 3port imotorsied valve is what by looking at it?the 3 port mid position valve and 3 port diverter valve are surposed to look the same lol from i read.

 

[heliotrope]

Is there any easy way of knowing which 3port imotorsied valve is what by looking at it?the 3 port mid position valve and 3 port diverter valve are surposed to look the same lol from i read.

Not sure about other makes but with Honeywell then if it has only 3 wires then it is a diverter.

5 and 6 wire diverters would be 4044s with a letter at the end.

Mid positions are 4073s