Toilet parts/workings help

[Micky819]

I changed the syphon on my toilet a while ago when the diaphragm split. The syphon I got is a 2 part one that allows access to the diaphragm without removing the cistern. The toilet has a side paddle type handle that only has one hole to link to the flush mechanism. Because of this it seemed to be pulling the diaphragm frame(not sure what this is called) at an angle and would not flush when pushing the handle once, it had to be pumped twice. Probably due to this the frame thingy that the diaphragm sits on (that attaches to the handle) has broken. I have two questions on this.
1. Are these available as spares, I only seem to be able to find the actual diaphragms.
2. How can I prevent in the future? The siphon seems to be sat in the same place and of the same size as the old one so don't know why this is happening.

Help will be much appreciated.

 

[Reg Man]

Adjustable lever mechanism needs attention?

 

[turnpin]

Hi Micky and welcome...I think you needed to fit a universal lift arm to your new syphon it has more holes to allow adjustment also there is a brass arm type that allows you to slide the bar through until it is where you need it to be before you lock it in place with the locking screw pop along to your local merchants and see what he has got to help you.....as for the plunger section I think you will have to buy a new syphon...best of luck Turnpin😱

 

[Micky819]

Thanks guys

Ive attached a picture of the paddle handle. This just seems to sit in the hole at the side of the cistern and is only held in place by the hook to the plunger section. Could this having free movement be causing it? Also is it worth changing to a flush valve. As the cistern is quite cramped. See picture below. If so is this any more difficult than changing the syphon?

 

[Micky819]

Hi thanks for the replies.

I've attached a picture of the cistern and the paddle handle. The handle only seems to be held in place by the hook from the plunger, so could this be the cause? Also as the cistern is quite cramped is it worth changing to a flush valve? If so is this any more difficult than changing a siphon?

 

[PhoenixServices]

Can you post a picture so we can see advise a bit better.

 

[Chalked]

As you have a side handle, I has only one hole. Can you remove the lever and drill some more holes so it pulls the syphon in a straight line. (Or as close to straight)?

 

[Reg Man]

Sounds like an old ideal WC cistern?

 

[Best]

All handles pull the syphon frame rod at an angle ( the handle moves in an arc shape ).
Maybe a different length of the stainless steel link wire would help? You can buy these in different lengths.
You could have also got a syphon to match the shape & height perhaps of the original.
The handle fixed hole does limit you, but may not be an issue, although the fact you replaced the original syphon probably has caused you problems & that's why I tend to just use a new syphon washer (or cut a new one) on otherwise perfectly good original syphons.

 

[Paulus]

It's hard to tell from your pictures but I don't see any reason why you can't replace the lever operated valve with a push button valve such as the Fluidmaster pro550.

It would save you having to mess about with different fittings in the hope you find one that works.