Flue terminal positions close to windows - changed?

[Marco]

Hi
We all know terminal must be 300mm from an opening window - but am I dreaming or has the rule changed now for distance from non opening windows? Seem to remember seeing somewhere that it now based on distance from a change in structure eg from edge of where brick changes to window frame?

Mi's only showing 300mm from opening window. Had a look on GSR at TB's but can't see anything.

Just pricing up a combi swop, terminal currently 200mm from non opening window, BG has told customer it is too close. So not sure if will need a plume management kit?

cheers

Mark

 

[lame plumber]

while back a gsr was done for installing a boiler next to a non opening window. Owner then changed it to opening! guess who was prosecuted and it wasnt the owner.

 

[hammers4spanner]

wasn't that down in newquay??
I remember hearing about that how a gsr engineer screwed window shut and put sealant round it and got appropriate paper work done to state about window . Then few years later property sold and new owner made closed window openable only for place to be loaded up with poc's. gsr engineer prosecuted and sent to prison

 

[tamz]

Use a plume kit

 

[lame plumber]

wasn't that down in newquay??
I remember hearing about that how a gsr engineer screwed window shut and put sealant round it and got appropriate paper work done to state about window . Then few years later property sold and new owner made closed window openable only for place to be loaded up with poc's. gsr engineer prosecuted and sent to prison

thats the one, I thought they were a bit harsh on the techies but the papers dont always tell the whole story only the gory and best bits.

 

[Mike Jackson]

It's all down to the MIs but if the MIs state a distance from a non opening window it must not be an opening window that has been sealed shut.

 

[Blake]

Use a plume kit

I thought a plume kit was merely to divert possible nuisance plumage and not to be used as a way of getting around regs/distances etc?

 

[Barry98]

I thought a plume kit was merely to divert possible nuisance plumage and not to be used as a way of getting around regs/distances etc?

depends how you read it

 

[Nostrum]

No you can use it for gaining distance from windows etc, thats why most state a min of 150mm from air intake to windows etc if using a plume kit

 

[lame plumber]

I thought a plume kit was merely to divert possible nuisance plumage and not to be used as a way of getting around regs/distances etc?

tend to agree with you on plume kit use, what if the customer sells up and the new one doesnt like his periscope or the local youth remove it and it next to an openable window, who is to blame when granny gets gassed, it will be the installer who writes their name on the benchmark paperwork!

 

[tamz]

tend to agree with you on plume kit use, what if the customer sells up and the new one doent like his periscope or the local youth remove it and it next to an openable window, who is to blame when granny gets gassed, it will be the installer who writes their name on the benchmark paperwork!

What if next time you service a boiler and the customer likes what he sees inside. A more rugged engineered look and likes to see the nice blue flames so takes the covers off it just as he watched you do 30 minutes before.
Put things in perspective.
Life is full of what ifs.

 

[Mike Jackson]

Best stop fitting boilers then. What happens if your customers sells up and the new owner decides to build a conservatory over the flue, cut an opening in next to the flue etc. As long as an appliance is installed to the MIs or regulations you will be covered. You have no control over what someone does after you have left the premises.

 

[Reg Man]

Have a look in Building Regulations Part J Table 34 note 1. It says a 150mm for FF boilers on non opening window frames.

 

[tamz]

The reason for which (from a building point of view) is the lintel is bearing on that 6" of brickwork.

 

[Nostrum]

Makes perfect sense but didn't see the connection before so a thank you to tamz