Gas Pipe exiting from side of meter box

[JLS]

Is it permissible for a gas pipe to exit from the side of the meter box?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Depends on the meter box if there's a pre knock out and manufacturers allow it then yes

 

[JLS]

Didn't even know there were different types. It's just a standard one as far as I'm aware. I've been told it was OK so long as the exit was sealed. I've attached a picture of the box in question. (Kind of obvious now that I've posted it !! )

 

[Harvest Fields]

Didn't even know there were different types. It's just a standard one as far as I'm aware. I've been told it was OK so long as the exit was sealed.

Any pictures?

 

[JLS]

Just to clear up any confusion, I'm trying to work the figures for an upgraded boiler as part of my portfolio. Guy that has agreed to supervise me did so rather reluctantly so I want to present the most complete and accurate plan that I can

 

[Harvest Fields]

That’s the bottom mate. Not the side.

 

[Sharp Point]

I’d be interested to see the actual regulation for this in black and white. Does anybody have a link?

Thanks

 

[JLS]

That’s the bottom mate. Not the side.

Funnily enough I was aware of that, perhaps my post prior to yours wasn't clear. That's the current install, but working out the pressure drops I feel that the supply needs to be upgraded and it would be a lot easier to exit through the side of the housing.

 

[Scott_D]

How will you take the box off if there is a pipe through it

 

[Harvest Fields]

How will you take the box off if there is a pipe through it

Bet it’s notched

 

[townfanjon]

Loads like that , nobody will own up .

 

[Gasmk1]

Updated a few like that and always run the 28mm the same way as its running now no need to notch the box

 

[DGT plumbing]

Usually a single bolt in bottom centre of the cover, when undone it pulls forward and lifts up exposing the meter and wall bracket. Makes it easier to work on the pipe work if you ever need too. They have a notched fitting around the pipe that's integral to the box design. They usually have a couple of cable ties holding the door on where the hinges used to be.

 

[firemant]

All very interesting. But not answering the OPs question.

 

[Harvest Fields]

All very interesting. But not answering the OPs question.

@ShaunCorbs answered them straight away mate.

Depends on the meter box if there's a pre knock out and manufacturers allow it then yes

 

[JLS]

How will you take the box off if there is a pipe through it

I was going to cut it to the back and then make up a plate to cover the slot

 

[JLS]

Updated a few like that and always run the 28mm the same way as its running now no need to notch the box

28 won't do it in this case. Well not by my calculations. Trouble is the property is an extended bungalow with the meter at one end, one boiler at the other end and another boiler and a cooker in the middle
I could have sworn we had a problem given to us in college where we were shown that we could make it work by increasing the pipe size further down the run but I've since been told that you have to come off the meter in the largest size pipe that you're going to use. I'm not sure there's enough room to jump it up to 35 and get it round the corner, hence wanting to come out the side.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

28 won't do it in this case. Well not by my calculations. Trouble is the property is an extended bungalow with the meter at one end, one boiler at the other end and another boiler and a cooker in the middle
I could have sworn we had a problem given to us in college where we were shown that we could make it work by increasing the pipe size further down the run but I've since been told that you have to come off the meter in the largest size pipe that you're going to use. I'm not sure there's enough room to jump it up to 35 and get it round the corner, hence wanting to come out the side.

you can get 35mm elbows

 

[Gasmk1]

you will get 35 mm from the inside of the box done it with that as well, just think about it

 

[JLS]

you can get 35mm elbows

True I was just trying to keep costs as low as possible as the customer is family

 

[ShaunCorbs]

True I was just trying to keep costs as low as possible as the customer is family

and looks better from the bottom

 

[Scott_D]

True I was just trying to keep costs as low as possible as the customer is family

2 extra elbows?
No doubt someone else will quote chesper and just connect onto what's there.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

depends on the loading but 10 elbows and 40m of pipe at 34kw is ok for 28mm tube

 

[JLS]

2 extra elbows?
No doubt someone else will quote chesper and just connect onto what's there.

It's not just the elbows though is it, it's another three elbows a meter connector and at least a meter of pipe. about £30 worth

 

[ShaunCorbs]

It's not just the elbows though is it, it's another three elbows a meter connector and at least a meter of pipe. about £30 worth

where you getting your fittings from normally around £20 max

 

[JLS]

BES was the cheapest I could find, that 35mm pipe 'aint cheap is it

<edit> just checked £35 once you've added the VAT from BES assuming the cheapest meter connection

 

[ShaunCorbs]

BES was the cheapest I could find, that 35mm pipe 'aint cheap is it

Around 30 for a length

 

[JLS]

Around 30 for a length

£40 with the VAT unless you can point me in the direction of a cheaper source

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Your local merchants eg city's plumbs etc

 

[JLS]

Your local merchants eg city's plumbs etc

I tried Wolseley and they got no where close (£53 a length for the 35 iirc and I don't think that was with the VAT)....check these prices.. I swear they don't want my business for some reason

 

[Harvest Fields]

Because your retail mate

 

[JLS]

Because your retail mate

Trade cash account, perhaps it's the fact that I don't have a credit account with them, perhaps it's because I don't put enough business their way, but when I'm getting better prices from toolzone and screwfix that's not easy to do.

 

[Gasmk1]

it is what it is price wise you have no control tell them to get materials then they will see prices.

 

[Jim Goodenough]

Is this any use to you JLS 35mm Copper Elbow by JTM Endfeed

 

[JLS]

Is this any use to you JLS 35mm Copper Elbow by JTM Endfeed

Thanks for the link, best price I've seen