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Lovely pipework and soldering. Gas heating job, what a joke!

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Take a look at this soldered joint I melted off. Literally holding by a solder thread and all joints seem same. Some of the pipes are also cut at a bad angle, obviously with a hacksaw. Pipes half in, barely soldered. This is original work (30 years old) on a system now converted to combi high pressure in a flat.
Really shocking "plumbers" could do such consistently useless soldering.
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Take a look at this soldered joint I melted off. Literally holding by a solder thread and all joints seem same. Some of the pipes are also cut at a bad angle, obviously with a hacksaw, (this one in photo is done badly with a pipe cutter) Pipes half in, barely soldered. This is original work (30 years old) on a system now converted to combi high pressure in a flat.
Really shocking "plumbers" could do such consistently useless soldering.
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Note the fitting shows bare copper never soldered also. I am removing every fitting above the floor, but it is a worrying thought that the pipes are buried in screed floors. Not a good idea to even move the pipes
 
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not clean enough before soldered
 
Take a look at this soldered joint I melted off. Literally holding by a solder thread and all joints seem same. Some of the pipes are also cut at a bad angle, obviously with a hacksaw, (this one in photo is done badly with a pipe cutter) Pipes half in, barely soldered. This is original work (30 years old) on a system now converted to combi high pressure in a flat.
Really shocking "plumbers" could do such consistently useless soldering.
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Note the fitting shows bare copper never soldered also. I am removing every fitting above the floor, but it is a worrying thought that the pipes are buried in screed floors. Not a good idea to even move the pipes
Come across that a lot on stuff fitted in the 70's and 80's. Some that are fully soldered you can snap off easily. Might be a combination of bad cleaning and the flux but it only seems to be on stuff from about a 10 year span. Saying that it is unusual to find soldered copper stuff from the 60's or earlier. It was all compression or paraffin blow lamps for lead then.
 
Come across that a lot on stuff fitted in the 70's and 80's. Some that are fully soldered you can snap off easily. Might be a combination of bad cleaning and the flux but it only seems to be on stuff from about a 10 year span. Saying that it is unusual to find soldered copper stuff from the 60's or earlier. It was all compression or paraffin blow lamps for lead then.

after 30 years warrentys probably void
 
not clean enough before soldered

Maybe, but it also can happen with lack of flux and/or blasting too much heat at the fitting.
It is a very common fault I believe in the methods plumber use to solder. I have the habit of melting off soldered joints to replace the joint and I find this with many fittings.
 
after 30 years its done its job,may be ****e but its held up,move on folks,nothing to see here

True :smile: it has somehow by luck held until now, but my point is the joints have been very weak from first day and obviously that plumber would have one or two leaking joints frequently.
Also joints like this will crack easily if we touch a pipe to connect onto and really got to be gentle with any pipes not being replaced. You never know what way a joint is done
 
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"Nice and neat inside your cupboard! No DIY kit fitted here, Outside tap done properly"

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