Help required what do i need to be a plumber!!!

[Jarv5116]

You signed of winni?

 

[lame plumber]

AAAgh been helping a cabbage head! (i alaways wanted a go at the all arms course,but wasnt allowed by appointers) but live down the road from Chivenor, so come across those lads fairly regularly. Happy to offer advice, pm me if you want stripes mean nothing now.

 

[deandive]

I fail to see your point Chris, when I was in the army we learned plenty from reading, digesting and putting into practice things studied in text books, I cant see that is any different to a distance learning course for plumbing. In an ideal world every plumber would have started at sixteen and completed a four year apprenticeship, however when I was sixteen I was planning my entry into the army and at eighteen was serving my country, so ****ing £45 a week against a wall whilst being babysat by an experienced plumber was not an option for me and Im pretty sure this is the case for wini 1979. Ok he may have been messed around by his training provider but that is hardly his fault so lets not beat him up about wanting to better himself eh

 

[wini1979]

This is going to sound harsh wini1979 but when you did your training to get into the army did you do it on a distance learning scheme or did they have you siting in a class room studying picture of guns & giving out bits of paper that said you will be able to use em, or did they just send you straight out on to the battle field, I think not.
So can I ask why you thought that plumbing would be so different ????

Chris as I stated in my first post,(Holding back the red mist) I do not want pointless irrelevant information / posts about my route,selection or personal circumstances for my plumbing.....I'm on here trying to get information to move forward with my life....Its sunday night, and you are on a forum posting a stupid comment that benefits noone.....Obviously you haven't got a life! get your head down...

 

[wini1979]

Dean and lame good to make contact with you and will pick your brains at some stage.....cheers...I have not signed off but am trying to get ahead of the game now, whilst still in. "Failure to prepare, is preparing to fail"

 

[deandive]

No worries, stick at its a good career move dont know about others but I get a great sense of pride and achievement when Ive done a good job and the customer is happy.

 

[nicro3]

No worries, stick at its a good career move dont know about others but I get a great sense of pride and achievement when Ive done a good job and the customer is happy.

A good attitude will get you a long way. Nice to see.

 

[chris watkins]

Sounds to me like you found your true vocation in life & now you want to leave it & join mine. What do you know about my life ?
If your reaction to my post is anything to go on, then god help any customers you may disagree with.

 

[lame plumber]

Sounds to me like you found your true vocation in life & now you want to leave it & join mine. What do you know about my life ?
If your reaction to my post is anything to go on, then god help any customers you may disagree with.

Its a pity you can't relax a bit and offer some decent advice, you obviously have a lot of knowledge and experience and could help. The one thing you dont understand is how people in the services work and you arent dealing with a teenage numptie who doesnt want to be in your class here. What you have is someone who has probably been in a learning environment over the last 10-20 years, constant improvement is the norm. so sitting down and passing a tech 2 o3 cert is not an issue despite what you think. you also have someone who will go out and achieve his aim without a problem once he settles down to it. Like Ive said befre along with others passing the courses is easy, its achieving the correct vocational bits thats harder and the best way is via a college imho as they arent profiteering, but it takes time. this guys probably been stripping down and repairing military hardware in conditions you cant ever imagine, so doing a bit of attic work is not an issue. It is time you changed your dogmatic viewpoint and started to help and encourage after all arent you in the teaching proffession!! I'd be happy to help this guy if he wanted to work with me a week at a time when he could, why cant you just try a bit harder to help some of the people out there. they need experience and the only way to get it is to start small, link in with other plumbers and work bigger over time, sorry but you dont need college to do that and before apprenticships were thrown out the window years ago you never needed to plant your bum in a classroom, so you still dont need to imho

 

[wini1979]

Sounds to me like you found your true vocation in life & now you want to leave it & join mine. What do you know about my life ?
If your reaction to my post is anything to go on, then god help any customers you may disagree with.

Chris don't get me wrong I love my job,what I have done and i do,all I am trying to do is not come out at my end of service without a plan to look after my wife and kids. My reaction may be seen as excessive but I'm not in a good place at the moment, I may have lost years and thousands....I am trying to stay upbeat move onwards and upwards..you comment had the opposite of this...lets just move on I...don't want to derail the thread. Bygones as such

 

[DrainMedic]

Wini, can you actually do any form of plumbing work already?

Qualifications aside, if you can get by with a blow lamp, there's tons of work out there for anyone who's willing to actually do it. My advice, if you can do the job, is to get some work in either by advertising online, or by getting a leaflet firm to put you some leaflets out. Once the phone starts ringing, and it will, you could get a plumber to work with you to give you some experience til you find your feet. We all had to start somewhere and I'm a very firm believer that you will only get out what you're willing to put in. You're clearly willing, or you wouldn't be here.
I personally work about 18 hours a day and do about 5/6 jobs a day. As a side note, anyone who tells you there's no work out there is either retarded or scared that you'll do better than them! In my opinion obviously.
If you PM me your number and when you're ready to take on work, I can pass on any enquiries from your area to you. We get national enquiries and can't cover the majority of what comes in from farther afield than the northwest. It is only emergency work though, but it pays well.

Best of luck pal!

 

[kay-jay]

right then i just want to add something about the whole 'no quals required to legally trade as a plumber' statements being bandied about.

while this may be true (it is) do not under any circumstances pick up a spanner in anger without a completed level 2 including nvq. the reason for this is public liability insurance. god forbid you ever need to claim but should the need arise and they get wind that you hold no quals they will shyte you down the river. leaving you with a bill that may mean working for years to pay off. essentially you would be unable to provide any certificates therefore classed as self taught which is 'a lay person' trading as a proffessional. likely as not the story would wind up in the local rag.

 

[chris watkins]

right then i just want to add something about the whole 'no quals required to legally trade as a plumber' statements being bandied about.

while this may be true (it is) do not under any circumstances pick up a spanner in anger without a completed level 2 including nvq. the reason for this is public liability insurance. god forbid you ever need to claim but should the need arise and they get wind that you hold no quals they will shyte you down the river. leaving you with a bill that may mean working for years to pay off. essentially you would be unable to provide any certificates therefore classed as self taught which is 'a lay person' trading as a proffessional. likely as not the story would wind up in the local rag.

Totally agree kay-jay but do you think the vast majority worry about insurance ?

This thread is just over 2 years old now, it would be interesting to know how the OP has got on ?
Did he make it as a plumber does anyone know, lame?

 

[DrainMedic]

I really ought to start looking at the age of posts before hitting the reply button! What a fadge!

 

[philtheflush]

You need 6129 for the knowledge and confidence to get the job done to be self employed but don't attempt a job that you think might to big you just take the time to learn the practical side this forum will help you best thing is try to enjoy what your doing it alleviates the stress of the business side of things