Hi to you all. Have a problem I hope you can assist please

[UFOned]

I hope someone can point me in the right direction. It seems my wife and I go from one disaster to another and all this has taken its toll on both of us. The latest disaster is that the en suite shower water outlet is smelling the extension out and into our bedroom. We have a septic tank that is quite modern. It has a blade going round and aerating the stuff 24/7. Here is what we have tried to do to rectify the matter:
1 - Run the water from the shower to ensure no leaks are visible in the garage below on the extension. And that is also running the bath and sink as well as the toilet. All seem to flowing well as you can hear the water running down the pipework.
2 - Took off the septic tanks lid and nothing was found that was obvious to resolve it.
3 - Took off the breather cap and tied a cloth around it as a temp measure. I read that if the breather hole is blocked it can cause a suction taking the water from the water pipe traps.
4 - Looked down the outside vent at the side of the house. It had the same smell as the septic tank and the shower outlet.

I have done everything to the best of my knowledge. I live in chronic pain 400mg morphine a day so anything I do it costs me in pain and morphine. I cannot see how we can assess anything else. Is there anything I have missed other than pulling up the shower tray. That is not something I want to go to as we are suppose to be selling the house. We inherited all the problems from the last lying owners. And we thought we were on the home straight as the house is up for sale. But as usual life seems to have other ideas. So would be grateful if anyone has any ides to help. The shower tray is like a half circle. And is narrow in depth; the outside measurement at the front is 6.5cm high. Looking forward to hearing your solutions. And I hope its not about ripping it out?

 

[Dotty]

Is the trap holding water for the seal? Shower traps have an inserts to maintain the seal and these can go missing.

Ours did. The GSD still denies any knowledge

 

[kozak1968]

Hi, You would be best employ a plumber to investigate the cause of the smell. It may be a dergo valve on the soil pipe which is faulty. Without looking it would be hard to give a conclusive answer.

 

[UFOned]

Thanks for your replies. Here are some images I have just taken of the trap. Thank you for giving me advice. Its much appreciated. I have loaded 3 images that I ave just taken with my tablet. Its the first 3 images on my Flickr page. All showing the trap and with the water catcher and without the top. Do you think a seal has gone here? https://www.flickr.com/photos/lightmuncher/

 

[UFOned]

If that were the case wouldn't it affect the other traps ie the bath and the sink in the same room?

 

[UFOned]

I have just been researching what a dergo valve is. Looking outside the house and up at the breather pipe, and its got a plastic cage to stop critters I guess going down the pipe. As for the septic tank, it doesn't have one either. It has a stopper which inserts into the pipe and its filled with gravel for ballast (I am guessing that it's for ballast).

 

[Best]

I have just been researching what a dergo valve is. Looking outside the house and up at the breather pipe, and its got a plastic cage to stop critters I guess going down the pipe. As for the septic tank, it doesn't have one either. It has a stopper which inserts into the pipe and its filled with gravel for ballast (I am guessing that it's for ballast).

Durgo valve is an air admittance valve the won't let gases out of the sewer vent, but will let air in when a suction occurs when toilets are flushed etc. Without it the traps in toilet pans and on baths, showers and basins could suck dry.
An open vent with bird cage on it is perfectly fine for outside vents if on correct place.
A Durgo valve has the advantage that it can be fitted indoors. Also means an outdoor stack can be short and neat

 

[REDSAW]

nice pics, like the lancaster and r slea

 

[UFOned]

Durgo valve is an air admittance valve the won't let gases out of the sewer vent, but will let air in when a suction occurs when toilets are flushed etc. Without it the traps in toilet pans and on baths, showers and basins could suck dry.
An open vent with bird cage on it is perfectly fine for outside vents if on correct place.
A Durgo valve has the advantage that it can be fitted indoors. Also means an outdoor stack can be short and neat

Thank you for the explanation. We are phoning a local plumbers today. We are grateful for your help. Thank you

 

[UFOned]

nice pics, like the lancaster and r slea

Thanks. Photography is my hobby. And strange events too around my home skies. We had a spate of them for over a year. Sadly they don't come over any more.

 

[UFOned]

As I have said above. I would like to thank you for your help. We are phoning a plumber to see if he has any idea, if not then we shall phone the people who deal with septic tanks.