is this cowl ok with gas fire?

[rolysatch]

hi

i've just picked up a decorative fuel effect hole in the wall gas fire. i've got a brick built chimney which this fire is ok with. i'm obviously going to get a gas safe guy to fit it, but i'm just trying to get an idea of what i'm in for.

my question is i have had a look at my chimney's (see photo) and i have a wire bird guard on one pot (which i'm guessing the chimney sweep can push off if need be) and from my research what looks like a GC1 insert in the other? i'm not sure which pot is the one that the new fire will be fitted to yet, but does anyone know if the gas fire can be used without a cowl, or alternatively if it's the one with the GC1 shown on the left of my photo, will that likely be ok to use with my fire?



any advice appreciated, thanks in advance.

 

[rolysatch]

Thanks yeah I'm out at the moment but will do when I get back. Cheers

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Its brand new from a bandq sale a couple of years ago and I'm only just getting round to getting it fitted now (still a current model). The instructions say a class 1 flue and no room vent required but doesn't make any mention of cowl or chimney pot.

class 1 flue is solid fuel spec,min diameter 7-9 inch,so if that 5 inch gc1 is on the flue to be used it is not suitable

 

[kris]

Sorry mate u just read original post i thought you bought an ilfe fire . My mistake

 

[kirkgas]

A GC1 should be ok with your gas fire, as long as its in good shape and not damaged and this is hard to see from pics, if its the cage then a proper terminal will have to be fitted to pot, It will tell you all in th MIs for your new fire,

Kris if the pot is over 170mm dia then no terminal is required (straight from CCN1)

 

[kris]

Kris if the pot is over 170mm dia then no terminal is required (straight from CCN1)

Your right kirk i shouldve just said check MIs ins, they maywell ask for one even at that dia in certain circumstances , leaves ,debri

 

[rolysatch]

hi

here's the instructions: http://www.sitehitz.com/gasfire002.pdf and http://www.sitehitz.com/gasfire003.pdf it's not the best bit of scanning but readable.

so my pot's are tall and slender but going by the size of the terminal in there, are they likely to be 7"? is the terminal that's in there now fixed in there or will the chimney sweep be able to push it off with his brush?

 

[kris]

hi

here's the instructions: http://www.sitehitz.com/gasfire002.pdf and http://www.sitehitz.com/gasfire003.pdf it's not the best bit of scanning but readable.

so my pot's are tall and slender but going by the size of the terminal in there, are they likely to be 7"? is the terminal that's in there now fixed in there or will the chimney sweep be able to push it off with his brush?

Soz mate i thought youd bought an ilfe fire and i didnt think the pot looked like the wider dia pot. Youl have to make sure that the pot is ok dia to be used with fire . But your engineer who fits it will want to check pot b4 he installs the fire even though its high.

 

[rolysatch]

thanks kris, hmmm i don't want to do it if it's going to cost loads, or even have to pay out a few hundred just to find out it's going to be a big job. and if i'm likely to need new chimney pots, scaffolding etc it's going to be. it looks like the company that make the fire are called scirroco fires now not winther browne, here's a better copy of the manual from there site http://www.siroccofires.com/pdf/royal600manual.pdf

edit: i've just had a brain wave, i clean gutters for one of my jobs and use a gopro video camera and carbon poles (upto over 40 foot). i'll use that to have a look at the pots in the morning and I maybe able to guage the size of them from that.

 

[kris]

It maybe wont cost you anything but the gas fitter will want to check pots anyway to make sure.

 

[Centralheatking]

So this is a safe answer to this thread and we are all happy ? Chking

 

[solutions]

So this is a safe answer to this thread and we are all happy ? Chking

No and no.