Powder flush vs powerflush - Why can't I find any information?

[dominoman]

I have been trying to find out if Powder Flushing is any more effective than powerflushing - but there is a real lack of information available.

On another forum I posted the question and it was taken down as the association apparently threatened to sue the site! Slightly worrying. I hope it's OK to ask here.

I have an old and badly clogged system and was going to try Powder Flush but now I am getting paranoid that there is no information available. Does anyone have any experience, either good or bad? Thanks.

 

[dominoman]

I should mention I have an open vented system with mix of old and new radiators. I've tried all the usual things and shower it with Sentinel X400 sludge remover but that had little effect. Pump seems to be fine as Adobe radiators get nice and hot while others are lukewarm at best.

 

[AlexGas]

I should mention I have an open vented system with mix of old and new radiators. I've tried all the usual things and shower it with Sentinel X400 sludge remover but that had little effect. Pump seems to be fine as Adobe radiators get nice and hot while others are lukewarm at best.

What powder are you using!?

 

[Nostrum]

Powder flushing is a specialist treatment that most of us wouldn't have experience with.

If your system is that bad, you should be using x800 or if your really brave and careful, Fernox DS-40.

That said, without a power flush you'll have limited results.

 

[Nostrum]

What powder are you using!?

Columbian marching

 

[AlexGas]

I have an old and badly clogged system... I am getting paranoid ...

Why not to call a plumber!?

 

[dominoman]

Powder flushing is a specialist treatment that most of us wouldn't have experience with.

If your system is that bad, you should be using x800 or if your really brave and careful, Fernox DS-40.

That said, without a power flush you'll have limited results.

I was thinking to first cut out some pipe that I think is pretty restricted and the air separator, because my F&E tank is pumping over. Then replace the pump and let the x400 chemicals circulate a few weeks.

Should I replace pump first, or powerflush first? I don't want to damage my shiny new pump if there is lots of crud still in the system.

 

[Destroyer2813]

X400s only meant for flushing slightly soiled systems and to flush flux etc out from New install s

 

[Chalked]

I was thinking to first cut out some pipe that I think is pretty restricted and the air separator, because my F&E tank is pumping over. Then replace the pump and let the x400 chemicals circulate a few weeks.

Should I replace pump first, or powerflush first? I don't want to damage my shiny new pump if there is lots of crud still in the system.

I would fix it in this order.

remove air separator.
cap off f&e cistern.
propper power flush, not just x800.( if you are a bit tight, you can hire them)
alter pipework, so as to not suck air or pump over.
Fit new pump.
Refit f&e cistern And test.

 

[SimonG]

How tight are we talking Chalked?

Gnats chuff or interference fit

 

[AWheating]

clean out f and e before refitting it.

use an acid unless you have alu system parts.

 

[dominoman]

Thanks. Last night I cut out the air separator. Full of gunk. I am sure I need a powerflush now so will be calling in a pro.

[I have a picture here but as a newbie I can't post it]

I have a 12 radiator copper pipe open system. I've been quoted 400 for a Power Flush, and 750 for a Powder flush. The powder flush is on a no fix no fee basis. Is it worth paying that much more? I can't afford to spend much - but on the other hand I don't want to get a power flush and then still be left with a non-working system.

 

[gassafe]

If its been pumping over for years the system is probably pretty bad, so you can expect some pin holed radiators in the future... Power flushing may find them sooner than later

 

[smhstu]

Never even heard of a powder flush!
is it April the first?

 

[scorps]

Never even heard of a powder flush!
is it April the first?

Sounds like a spelling mistake on one of his quotes

 

[erpkid]

Sounds like a spelling mistake on one of his quotes

POWDERFLUSH No fix no fee apparently

 

[erpkid]

Just dug a bit deeper, they are not even vat registered yet so must be pretty new. Also with my cynical head the " also use other technologies " makes me suspicious so it may be a back door route to get BG powerflush money. Just a thought but maybe good luck to them !

 

[newcastle phill]

Powderflush ???

Senacot, magracol .....works for me !

 

[PhoenixServices]

Reading that bit about powder flushing, can't see how the powder doesn't get caught in the waterways of new boilers. I've had boilers block up from undisolved neutralising crystals before.

 

[dominoman]

Yes - all looks a bit like pseudo science to me. In the end I booked my local plumber for less than half the price. He has a Fernox machine and will get the system working whatever it takes.