Train4Tradeskill pre attendence test.

[tamz]

Risk assessments are easy when you learn how to do them in a written version the brain dead can understand. Health and safety is all about cover your rse.
You risk assess every thing you do every day of your life without thinking. It is a natural thing. You don't want to die crossing the road so you do it safely without really thinking about it but you have subconsciously risk assessed before you do it. It is a bit harder when you do think about it and have to actually write down what you think in 1 second. Get your mind set into it and it will fall into place.
The only way they can test on health and safety is if they are looking for the main points as no 2 risk assessments will ever be the same.
To answer your questions.
1.) All your answers are here
Construction - Ladders industry health & safety
2.) Think dust (eyes and breathing), electrics (110V , breaker or cordless) hidden , buried services , supplies and whatever else you can think of.
3.) Electrics on tools again, dust, goggles, mask gloves hidden(buried) services or supplies, materials you are drilling through and any risks associated to them
etc
As you are hopefully seeing, it is all bollox. If you are not from a construction background it will be easy to fail you.

 

[rk660]

Luckily I do risk assessments at work but I agree it will be easy to fail someone not in the industry...but they will have to learn as nowadays you cannot take a fart without a risk assessment on a construction site....but lets be honest how many times have you actually read one on site and done what it says.....besides it is often not practical on a real site...so common sense is the best risk assessment.

 

[yogavo]

this paper assignment is the biggest load of rubbish i've ever come across.

 

[rk660]

AGREED....it is!
I am finding it slow going which needs tons of research and writing...

 

[spanner]

Good to hear, I called today to ask about the book and waiting for a call bback which weren't returnd...they must be very very busy... Jusyt wished I had the book right now, as I find readindg and reading the on-line bit is blinding me...llol.:conehead:

 

[spanner]

WOW fab to know I'd do anything to avoid it honestly.. really I wanna pass that so much I've not taken 3rd attempt yet and seaching WH Smith Waterstones..and no sir ee:49:

 

[spanner]

Risk assessments are made to reduce the risks in the workplace and to all others who work around you. Then when or if someone was to witness something that could be harmful to you or others around you would do what was told in your INDUCTION report it to IMMEDIATE SITE SUPERVISOR, who would then ORGANISE a TOOL BOX TALK that would be refreshed on the TASK or tasks in hand which were taking place and PPE. :nono:

 

[yogavo]

i seriously thought i was getting through this crap. i've managed to get to page 35... thinking yes i am nearly through it, then they slam you with 10 links (8 are pdf's) that you have to look at to get the answers to the rest of the bs questions they have.

the thing that really frustrates me is I KNOW its a way of trying to discourage me from finish my course and i am fairly certain there will be more pointless tests on the way before i am to finish. i am sick of it.

 

[rk660]

I know how you feel...been working on this paper for days and seem to be getting no where near the end.....Every answer requires so much time and research...then compose an answer in you own words etcetc....this is surely going to slow progress a lot....imagine how many times this can be marked wrong!!!!!....every time you get an answer wrong you will have to wait for the paperwork to come back to you....then correct it...... and send it back=weeks upon weeks of trial and error...Imagine the possibilities of incorrect answers if the on-line scam is anything to go by (no pass rate,no feedback)...This whole pre-attendance test may set people back as much as 8-10 weeks......SCAMMERS!

 

[yogavo]

anyone ever seen the sign: No work prior to safety/environment induction
?

 

[rk660]

Hi....usually they just say no work before safety induction....use google images...however they are usually mandatory signs (blue and white)

 

[Plumbsy]

Yessss....mee meee meeeee! Must say that I'm doing the pre attendance test AND I think its a pain. Confess! I've failed on two submissions so far and just about to do a 3rd (when content to do so after the 7th day) and annoying. Spoke to admins last week and was asking where you could purchase the book. They say that if your not successful the 4outh time it'd be a logical read and answer test.. So when I'm ready confident I'll try submitting.:waving:And what level or course are you doing??????????

Hi all! Not been on for ages. Well after getting the paper version of the test, I found myself putting it off for ages as every time I looked at it, it wound me up! How ever I did start ploughing through it, bit by bit and eventually submitted it. I passed, with good feedback. I have now booked onto my practical at last and can finally get on my training that I do enjoy when I am there! Unfortunately it's just a case of gritting your teeth and getting on with it! As long as I get my certificates at the end of it I will be happy! Please do not think by signing up to this course you will be doing it at your pace. It is at theirs!

 

[yogavo]

Hi all! Not been on for ages. Well after getting the paper version of the test, I found myself putting it off for ages as every time I looked at it, it wound me up! How ever I did start ploughing through it, bit by bit and eventually submitted it. I passed, with good feedback. I have now booked onto my practical at last and can finally get on my training that I do enjoy when I am there! Unfortunately it's just a case of gritting your teeth and getting on with it! As long as I get my certificates at the end of it I will be happy! Please do not think by signing up to this course you will be doing it at your pace. It is at theirs!

i am totally with you on the getting wound up part. i basically knocked it in week, with the great great help of one of the posters here. i sent it away on friday for mark, i am really hoping the received it today... i want to get my final 3 weeks done and wash my hands with the course

 

[yogavo]

i passed it. apparently i could have given more detail on some of the answers, but i passed. all thanks to LUCIALIA!!!

 

[PlumbBobBob]

well done mate one of the few who has apparently

 

[Kev16]

Hi every1 just taking my pre attendance test not only is it impossible to pass but don't you think the time it's gives u is outrages 1hour to answer 45 questions.

 

[dan462]

hi i done module 35 test and sat waiting for my letter inviting me onto week 7 the letter never arrived so after several weeks i phoned and was told i had to do a preassessment test which was online which i have failed twich now. but when i did praticals on level2 the gola exams i passed all first time except lead weathering so now i am fairly p off a lot of questions have a number of posible correct answers

 

[PlumbBobBob]

you're not the first one to fail this "preassessment" which by general consensus is nothing more than a mechanism to prevent you from proceeding at a faster pace than that which t4ts wants you to proceed at. welcome to the forums by the way.

 

[jase158]

Statement 1. PPE must be used to provide protection to individuals

false, must be provided, there is no rule to wear it.

Statement 2. Most risks can be overcome in a satisfactory mannor by the use of PPE.

False, Most risk can be overcome by spending time considering the risk, PPE is one of many prevention methods

 

[plumber5]

Heya,

Also got stuck with this test -
1. it is impossible to get 100% but that is what 'seems' to be required
2. once you have failed online 4 times they will phone you to 'chat' about the difficulty you are having with the H+S test, on the back of this they will then send you a paperbased assignment
3. the assignment is in the region of 22pgs. long and requires 100% for a pass - in trying to do my H+S assessment I have about 20 Health and Safety Executive documents open on the computer at any 1 time, trying in vain to achieve 100% -

This is definitely just a blocking tactic.......my advice is to fail the online exams as quickly as possible and get onto the mammoth task of the paper based assignment as there must be an end somewhere, but using up time trying too hard to pass and online test that is impassable just eats up extra time - fail 4 times as quickly as possible and move on.......

 

[mountainman]

Why bother wasting your money.
There seems to be very little work for qualified and experienced tradesmen so exactly what is the attraction to join the plumbing industry?

 

[Kev16]

I've just took my pre attendance test for the 3rd time and finally passed!!!! Glad I won't have to do the stupid test again

 

[PlumbBobBob]

well done!

 

[Kev16]

Thanks just got me final 4weeks training 2do now

 

[juanpa251]

I Win, I mean I passed too

 

[PlumbBobBob]

I Win, I mean I passed too

no, i think you got it right first time lol

 

[simondjuk]

bloody hell, just done it for the 3rd time and....passed! I was beginning to think it was impossible

 

[PlumbBobBob]

i have a theory! maybe they who set the test have been reading this thread and have decided to let more peeps pass to get a good reputation? only a theory but who knows.

 

[yogavo]

i have a theory! maybe they who set the test have been reading this thread and have decided to let more peeps pass to get a good reputation? only a theory but who knows.

i know for a fact people are t4ts visit this forum

 

[Chrissy1966]

Hi everyone just failed my pre attendance test on my first attempt. A little bit surprised as I am a fireman and have been sent on more health and safety courses than I can remember. I am going to phone them tomorrow and try and find out the pass rate let you all know how I get on. Presumably our results are stored somewhere on their computer system and we have a right to see any information stored about us. Just a thought.

 

[vevo]

Can anybody help me out with this unfair pre attendance test? I passed the Health and Safety C and G test in the centre, then I was sent this, this is just slowing me down, pm me please

 

[tamz]

Learn it.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

this is just slowing me down

that is the general idea i believe

 

[Chrissy1966]

that is the general idea i believe

Phoned my tutor this morning and was told that due to change of policy I would not have to wait seven days to redo test. Just logged on to redo it and computer will not allow retake of test within seven days!!!!
Will phone tutor again tomorrow and post how I get on.

 

[Chrissy1966]

Tutor lied.

 

[vevo]

Tutor lied.

All of us should work together, that way we can complete the paper pre attendance quicker and start moving this course forward, rather than waiting longer and having the course expired and then having to pay for extending it, just saying.

 

[Chrissy1966]

All of us should work together, that way we can complete the paper pre attendance quicker and start moving this course forward, rather than waiting longer and having the course expired and then having to pay for extending it, just saying.

Sounds good to me. Just phoned there loan dept and told them I wouldn't make any more payments until I passed this part, went down really well got the usual threats of hanging,electric chair etc.

 

[richardtheplumb]

i had the same problems with them when it came to this exam, i got the same answers as all you guys, i just passed the written version so will be on the blower to them tom to get some dates to do weeks three and four. i also think this is a delay tactic so you dont finish the course until you have paid all your fees

 

[richardtheplumb]

i failed the online version twice on my own and twice with my h+s manager sitting beside me and he said himself it was an exam that was impposible to pass

 

[spanner]

Sounds good to me. Just phoned there loan dept and told them I wouldn't make any more payments until I passed this part, went down really well got the usual threats of hanging,electric chair etc.

Hi Chrissy what part are you up toAre you doing the 6129 level 2??

 

[jam1979]

Hi Chrissy what part are you up toAre you doing the 6129 level 2??

hi all ive just done the test for the third time and passed it hope this helps

 

[spanner]

hi all ive just done the test for the third time and passed it hope this helps

Congratulations Well done jam 1979...well thats the both of us..Fortunately I'd passed on the 4ourth. Now its time for practical. What's your course? Is it the 6129 Level 2.
Feeling relieved,as all the knowledge and reading has been really brill, and looking forward to stepping up to do level 3...

Can't wait

 

[richardtheplumb]

been on the blower today to book weeks three and four and surprise surprise i have to send them a statement of proof that i have payed up to date, another delay tactic i think

 

[spanner]

been on the blower today to book weeks three and four and surprise surprise i have to send them a statement of proof that i have payed up to date, another delay tactic i think

Completed your weeks 1 and 2 these were in your first certification!! Correct.. Me too, well I've booked mine for the September months, as this time all the kids are BACK TO SCHOOL:75:

 

[richardtheplumb]

where are you going to do weeks 3 and four, i was hoping to go in september but taken on some work so hoping to go in october

 

[spanner]

where are you going to do weeks 3 and four, i was hoping to go in september but taken on some work so hoping to go in october

Going to LUTON.. But in the meantime I'm still doing lots of reading for level 3 and so relieved of passing H&S test.. phew. I've heard there are other centres. Where are you based at??

 

[spanner]

Can anybody help me out with this unfair pre attendance test? I passed the Health and Safety C and G test in the centre, then I was sent this, this is just slowing me down, pm me please

How is the pre test going?? If there are any questions you're not sure about ask in the Forum and good luck pal..!:christmastree1:

 

[richardtheplumb]

im based in neath south wales, i went to leeds for my first 2 weeks and not really concerned where i go for my next two as long as i can get dates sooner rather than later, there are quite a few centres littered all over the country but luton was never offered to me

 

[spanner]

im based in neath south wales, i went to leeds for my first 2 weeks and not really concerned where i go for my next two as long as i can get dates sooner rather than later, there are quite a few centres littered all over the country but luton was never offered to me

Ok I'm based in North London, but me fingers crossed that it aint going to be a lonnng daily travel duration for me either..
But hopefully be ready a place for me in September in LUTON...

 

[richardtheplumb]

wherever i go it will be a stay away from home for me but im used to it i was a long distance lorry driver for 20 years so its nothing new for me