Uninstalling Ideal Concorde CX70 from church cellar...

[harrygashull]

On Tuesday we will be attempting to remove an old Ideal concorde CX70 from a church cellar, the boiler has a dry weight of apron 330kg and the space is awkward for lifting...

I notice on the installation instructions that the boiler could and more than likely was delivered in pieces... after all of these years what are the chances of us being able to remove it in the same fashion all be it in reverse. will the pieces have fused together and require the gentle persuasion of a sledge hammer?

any advice is appreciated... and before you say, no we can't leave it down there...

 

[ShaunCorbs]

you commercial gas reg?

and it will be in sections with nipples

 

[harrygashull]

Hello again Shaun,

I am not personally however Im working with two chaps who are, hoping to go for my commercial in the next few years...

 

[Last Plumber]

They should know how it comes apart!
It's not normally a major problem tbh

 

[harrygashull]

They probably do! Just Iv never had to take one apart! Biggest thing iv taken out is a mexico!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Hello again Shaun,

I am not personally however Im working with two chaps who are, hoping to go for my commercial in the next few years...

thats fine you will either need a big sledge and a wedge

grinder works
rep saw works

cut the round nipple on the 2 corners / 4 courners

bare will look like this

stripping / sections

and do you see the nipples (different boiler)

 

[harrygashull]

Cheers shaun, ever the wealth of knowledge. looks like a steam boiler?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Cheers shaun, ever the wealth of knowledge. looks like a steam boiler?

no hydro theres my fancy word of the night

 

[harrygashull]

is that a 162 box I see?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

is that a 162 box I see?

maybe good eye ooo top tip dont drop a section on your foot it hurts

 

[harrygashull]

If I do can I style it out claiming it was a steely test for H&S lol

In all seriousness Id rather drop it on my man sausage than on the listed church's stone floor...

 

[ShaunCorbs]

If I do can I style it out claiming it was a steely test for H&S lol

In all seriousness Id rather drop it on my man sausage than on the listed church's stone floor...

but you wont lift them use a cart there too heavy / stupid

 

[harrygashull]

Yeah, we have a very well made angle iron sack barrow lined up for the job and 3 big idiots ready to help...

 

[harrygashull]

got any pics of that install when complete?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Yeah, we have a very well made angle iron sack barrow lined up for the job and 3 big idiots ready to help...

good lad no need to screw your back up yet

and no (not my pics)

but if your on twitter follow mr hull (master of all commercial)

https://twitter.com/PRHullltd

 

[Last Plumber]

On Tuesday we will be attempting to remove an old Ideal concorde CX70 from a church cellar, the boiler has a dry weight of apron 330kg and the space is awkward for lifting...

I notice on the installation instructions that the boiler could and more than likely was delivered in pieces... after all of these years what are the chances of us being able to remove it in the same fashion all be it in reverse. will the pieces have fused together and require the gentle persuasion of a sledge hammer?

any advice is appreciated... and before you say, no we can't leave it down there...

On cxa there are four tie rods from front to back, can't miss em once casing gone, undo or cut em pull them out.

Use a metal wedge as Shaun said or a sharp cold chisel drive the sections apart.
One at a time.

Be careful because on that boiler, your sections ( depending on age of boiler) may be sat on the combustion chamber box at the base and not the floor but you'll see that once you start.

 

[harrygashull]

Got it out in 5 pieces! grinder through the 4 threaded rods and then took a hammer to them, came apart easy enough!

Tomorrow, Boarding out and first fix of 2 x 35 Cdi classic systems, Low loss header , Grunfoss magna pump and valves... Ill post some pics if anyone is interested.

 

[Rickster123]

Got it out in 5 pieces! grinder through the 4 threaded rods and then took a hammer to them, came apart easy enough!

Tomorrow, Boarding out and first fix of 2 x 35 Cdi classic systems, Low loss header , Grunfoss magna pump and valves... Ill post some pics if anyone is interested.

I'm interested! Boiler room pics are like frankie Vaughan to me!

 

[harrygashull]

I get you APP, people often give me funny looks when I'm dribbling over a nice bit of work...

 

[Gasmk1]

i have 1 1/2" magnetic filter that still boxed if you are interested cost £400

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Got it out in 5 pieces! grinder through the 4 threaded rods and then took a hammer to them, came apart easy enough!

Tomorrow, Boarding out and first fix of 2 x 35 Cdi classic systems, Low loss header , Grunfoss magna pump and valves... Ill post some pics if anyone is interested.

That's good normally either solid or very easy to come apart and yes please

 

[harrygashull]

Thanks for the offer but Iv already got 2 magnas on site Have you seen the twintech ?

 

[lame plumber]

try getting an old heatslave down the stairs on your own, with white carpets, you soon learn how to break it down

 

[harrygashull]

I was on the Worcester oftec course a few months ago and they said somebody had fitted a danesmoor 50/70 in the LOFT... poor fireman if that place ever burns...

 

[ShaunCorbs]

I was on the Worcester oftec course a few months ago and they said somebody had fitted a danesmoor 50/70 in the LOFT... poor fireman if that place ever burns...

Hope the floor got cross beams

 

[harrygashull]

They said it was positioned on joists on top of a supporting wall

 

[ShaunCorbs]

They said it was positioned on joists on top of a supporting wall

Hahaha hope no one knocks it down

Only fools and horses chandelier comes to mind

 

[harrygashull]

yeah lol, builder doesn't check loft and agrees to nocking through ...

 

[harrygashull]

Before

 

[harrygashull]

 

[harrygashull]

 

[ShaunCorbs]

no anti vib mounts/bellows on pump?

but very good so far how you enjoying it?

 

[harrygashull]

 

[harrygashull]

tbh, Its brand new and shouldn't vibrate much, got rubber lined clips on it too so shouldn't be an issue ��

I am moving the expansion under the pumps for servicing ease

 

[Dotty]

no anti vib mounts/bellows on pump?

but very good so far how you enjoying it?

I'm starting to veer away from anti vibration mounts and bellows on new pumps now. With the new technology in the impellor design and the pumps themselves ramping up and down I feel they're no longer required and present an unnecessary expense as well as being something else that can go wrong.