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Ray Stafford
According to its own website, its the total budget for the NHS in England. I hadn't twigged that - being just England means that its about £1800 per person.
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Whyme
Not at all ray. UKIP aren't PC and i don't like modern day PC because you cant fart without offending somebody.
But UKIP does attract the so called politicians that camaron and his new lefty righty conservatives would avoid on the street.
To finish my opinion is that UKIP are attracting the mildly racist which is a worry.
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Ermintrude
Off topic PC is a load of nonsense it's just people getting upset about words. Everyone has the right to use words in an order they see fit to use just because so done takes offence to a word doesn't make it illegal or wrong. Just maybe disrespectful and not the done thing.its the opinion that the words are being used to portray that should be seen as wrong but again everyone is entitled to an opinion. Take this whole clarkson thing. It wasn't an opinion or statement just a series of words that some people would take offence too.
On topic I wouldn't say it is attracting the mildly racist more people fed up with same old same old
On topic I wouldn't say it is attracting the mildly racist more people fed up with same old same old
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Whyme
I could go on about how negative and socially regressive UKIP could be to this country till im blue in the face.. When i said mildly racist i meant the general public who don't want to be associated with the likes of griffin etc but aren't tolerant of a cultural melting pot.
What's racist about not tolerating a cultural melting pot? Racist is used far too often when people have no other argument, far too easy to shoot someone down as racist
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Whyme
OK i,ll rephrase it then, Intolerance to the cultural melting pot that is Britain.
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Ermintrude
People don't have a problem with it, we could debate this all night but it does no good as it just ends in a row getting personal like it did last time
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Dotty
I agree, we're watching this thread carefully, healthy political debate is one thing but don't get personal with it.
Except for politicians. You can call them whatever you like!
Politics. Where 'poly' means 'many' and 'tics' means 'blood sucking parasites feeding relentlessly off normal people'.
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Ray Stafford
If we discuss politics at midnight after a few drinks its probably asking for trouble. I thought this one was fairly mild. 🙂
as a londoner im pretty tolerant to the place always having been a melting pot i grew up in a mixture of orthodox jews west indians and irish communities but the last 15 years its been swamped by so many nationalities that i feel the outsider now
while i can understand we have open doors to the peoples of europe can some one explain how we have so many Africans Afghans and South Americans here now?
while i can understand we have open doors to the peoples of europe can some one explain how we have so many Africans Afghans and South Americans here now?
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Masood
I'm absolutely gobsmacked Ray. A man of your obvious intelligence and education trotting out such a specious and facile statement.
The UKIP are an odious bunch of racists, and supporting them is lending power and legitimacy to their vile views.
You cannot, I'm afraid, claim to only partly support them. When faced with bigots the stance one takes has to be binary - you're either with them or against them. Supporting them on ANY basis adds one more vote to their ENTIRE manifesto - there is no option at the ballot to specify which part of them you support.
I'm quite saddened by reading what you wrote. I think very highly of you and it's quite a sobering thing to have discovered.
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Masood
Hell no! Was a lifelong Labour man from a family of Labour voters. Green Party now. I know it's pretty much a wasted vote right now, but every added voice makes it easier to be heard...
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Whyme
Mas, how exactly are UKIP racist? I've not seen anything that points to that and I also think that it maybe a bit of stirring from the other parties to muddy the waters, due to fear!
I'm no racist and I am prepared to be enlightened by facts.
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