40mm elbow. limited space to fit

[handsomejackuk]

can anyone advise on an easy way to fit a 40mm T Waste into an existing 40mm waste straight run... the straight run has no removable section to the left or right of the pipe... it is about 1meter long one side goes through the wall and is cemented in and runs under ground and the other end disappears under a shower tray access is very tight, i dont really want to get the shower tray back out just to put in a 40mm T joint... is there any flange, or slip type joint i can use... as i have tried push fit but it is to tight to get it in... was thinking of using solvent weld..

any advice...

 

[Simon F]

trying to picture exactly what your describing?
what is the existing pipe?
push fit and solvent are not the same, a compression joint could connect the two

 

[handsomejackuk]

i have a straight run of 40mm pipe going across a wall...at low level about 4 inches from ground this run is about 1m - 1.5m long.. both ends of this straight run are not acessible. i.e. i dont want to go pulling any of them out... as one end goes under a shower tray the other end of the straight run disappears through a wall to outside of house and is cemented in and disappears under paving slabs...

i have the pipe already cut and there was a 40mm elbow push fitted in to this straight run.in the middle of the run...if that makes sense... it was really awkward to fit in, in the first place... it is now leaking as it was so awkward to get the elbow in.. i want a better method of fitting this elbow.. is there any sort of elbow that can slide up the straight run a little, then slide back down and maybe be glued on... this needs to be reliable as it is hidden underfloor. and future access will be awkward...

 

[erpkid]

i have a straight run of 40mm pipe going across a wall...at low level about 4 inches from ground this run is about 1m - 1.5m long.. both ends of this straight run are not acessible. i.e. i dont want to go pulling any of them out... as one end goes under a shower tray the other end of the straight run disappears through a wall to outside of house and is cemented in and disappears under paving slabs...

i have the pipe already cut and there was a 40mm elbow push fitted in to this straight run.in the middle of the run...if that makes sense... it was really awkward to fit in, in the first place... it is now leaking as it was so awkward to get the elbow in.. i want a better method of fitting this elbow.. is there any sort of elbow that can slide up the straight run a little, then slide back down and maybe be glued on... this needs to be reliable as it is hidden underfloor. and future access will be awkward...

What you need is a slip joint with a much longer sleeve as you use on tight copper joints. I don't know if they make them for wastes. Another option is one of those concertina connectors. They have screw ends and could be put in any shape and join to push fit or solvent weld pipe. Not attractive but worth a google.

McAlpine Flexible Waste Connector 40mm 1.5" FLEXCON 4 on eBay!

 

[handsomejackuk]

 

[handsomejackuk]

 

[handsomejackuk]

What you need is a slip joint with a much longer sleeve as you use on tight copper joints. I don't know if they make them for wastes. Another option is one of those concertina connectors. They have screw ends and could be put in any shape and join to push fit or solvent weld pipe. Not attractive but worth a google.

McAlpine Flexible Waste Connector 40mm 1.5" FLEXCON 4 on eBay!

that would do it...but not ideal... i surprised they dont do some sort of slip joint or removable flange that can be removed for tight situations like i have here...

surely there must a better way... anyone else.. ??.

 

[erpkid]

The concertina further along the pipe would give you the opportunity to remove the T and redo with solvent weld assuming your 40mm pipe is solvent weld. If not a compression T can be used. You will have to support the concertina once in place.

 

[handsomejackuk]

think i may do that... put the concertina piece to the left of the "T".. i hate having loads of joints in pipe..... i may then replace the rest with solvent.. or just get a new push fit or... screw type waste fitting... pain in the backside though...

 

[handsomejackuk]

think i may do that... put the concertina piece to the left of the "T".. i hate having loads of joints in pipe..... i may then replace the rest with solvent.. or just get a new push fit or... screw type waste fitting... pain in the backside though...

 

[erpkid]

think i may do that... put the concertina piece to the left of the "T".. i hate having loads of joints in pipe..... i may then replace the rest with solvent.. or just get a new push fit or... screw type waste fitting... pain in the backside though...

Know the feeling. I prefer all solvent weld but occasionally have to compromise.

 

[handsomejackuk]

looks like travis perkins do the mc alpine stuff i get out tomorrow and sort it too much snow here.. to even get the car out..

 

[Subby]

looks like travis perkins do the mc alpine stuff i get out tomorrow and sort it too much snow here.. to even get the car out..

Just dig it out, I dug out my whole street, only took me 2 hours, and none of the neighbours helped 🙁

 

[snowhead]

You want a Flexseal PC43.

Rubber universal slip (repair) coupling.

Plumb centre stock them or something similar.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

it may be the angle of the photo, but to me it looks like the pipe doesn't go into the tee straight but at a slight angle.

 

[SimonG]

Grab the tee and pull it to you, off will pop the push fit tee and replace with a compression one. Fit the rings and rubbers over the pipe. Pull the pipes too you and slot the tee in.

 

[Avatar]

usually you can find a way to unbutton the pipework somewhere enough to get a wee bit of movement in it to fit a coupling . . .

I would go for solvent as it is more minimalistic and needs less insert depth on it than other type.

Its a pig but where there is a will there is always a way!

 

[handsomejackuk]

sorted now.. hopefully it wont leak again.. wish i saw that flex seal thingy though earlier... i would have used that... its not pretty, but think its leakproof

 

[stevetheplumber]

sorted now.. hopefully it wont leak again.. wish i saw that flex seal thingy though earlier... i would have used that... its not pretty, but think its leakproof

nothing is leak proof

 

[buckley plumb]

as above compression slip joint expensive. that waste looks like its falling to the tee in both directions