A toilet-based first for me...

[WaterTight]

After nutting about with different doughnut washers (standard, wide thin rubber, thick foam) and even resorting to siliconing the latter in places still got leaks on flushing. Even reassembled uncoupled from inlet and overflow connections and with c/c bolts at various levels of tightness to make sure nothing was causing washer to slip. Still leaked - big style - every time.

Was changing from handle operated syphon to push button drop valve type. Reason being customer wanted more powerful flush. Finally concluded that toilet design couldn't take force of drop valve flush. Swapped to handle operated syphon and was ok.

Anyone else had this? Done hundreds of toilets and a first for me. Maybe been lucky. Wasn't even that old a WC.

 

[WaterTight]

"Even reassembled uncoupled from inlet and overflow connections and with c/c bolts at various levels of tightness to make sure nothing was causing washer to slip."

By which I mean, filled cistern with a bucket and then flushed to make sure neither inlet or overflow connections was pulling cistern one way or other

 

[Kyle87]

There's a brand of toilet I've fitted in two different houses now and had this problem.

Don't know why it happens but it takes me a while to get right. I wish I remembers the brand so I can run a mile next time I see one

 

[TomLane]

Had this a couple of times too. Can't remember the brand but remember it being the cheaper end of the range.

Even resorting to putting a small boat level on the cistern to make sure it was sitting correctly didn't work.

Sometimes the finish on the porcelain is slightly out so no matter how hard you try to line it up it just won't seal.

Annoying to say the least when a simple task holds you up!


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[Resolute]

Does the flush valve have a longer thread or larger nut stopping everything lining up?

 

[mfgs]

I have had a couple of real nightmares with close coupled cisterns, I hate doughnut washers with a passion. Last toilet I fitted the doughnut washer supplied was never going to seal with the pan and cistern supplied as the gap between them was huge and the doughnut was tiny. Had to buy a thick rubber one and add a lot of silicone to get it to seal.

 

[Resolute]

I used to replace syphons on a daily basis when I was subbing. Some toilets and cisterns would go back together no probs, others would need to be done 2 or 3 times before they stopped leaking!

 

[tweakyboy]

A nice big ring on plumbersmait should do the trick. I've used it before to get around a dodgy pan, haven't been called back. Yet! :38:

 

[Resolute]

A nice big ring on plumbersmait should do the trick. I've used it before to get around a dodgy pan, haven't been called back. Yet! :38:

Can be a nightmare for the next plumber though, cleaning it all off!

 

[gassafe]

Can be a nightmare for the next plumber though, cleaning it all off!

Who ever thinks about the "next plumber..." ;p

 

[SimonG]

Me. Hopefully it's me again 🙂

 

[REDSAW]

ever wondered why there are over a dozen type doughnuts?

 

[PlumbersMate]

Got taught 2 weeks ago, use LSX on the doughnuts, works like a dream

 

[gassafe]

Got taught 2 weeks ago, use LSX on the doughnuts, works like a dream

Is It just me, or is LSX just a small tube of over priced silicone...

 

[Resolute]

Is It just me, or is LSX just a small tube of over priced silicone...

It sets when surfaces are damp so can be very handy!

 

[REDSAW]

Is It just me, or is LSX just a small tube of over priced silicone...

smack a tube of plumbers gold on to be sure lol

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

anyone used the new vitow doughnut/washer works quite well

 

[Dotty]

anyone used the new vitow doughnut/washer works quite well

Not seen them Mark, where d'you get them from?

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

its on here somewhere but i will get a pic and pn up tomorrow
Mark Vitow Ltd - WC Accessories/Flushpipes & Connectors/Connectors

 

[buckley plumb]

had a pig of one that would weep from cistern area when cistern was tightened to pan after replacing the doughnut several times and the flush syphon it still leaked eventualy found hair line crack in cistern - think toilet was b and q bog in a box

 

[plumber0808]

I can't stand toilets, the most basic of plumbing work and always turns into a nightmare.

I think I'm on a bad run as i expect them to leak now when putting them back together....... It senses my fear..... :uhoh2:

 

[WaterTight]

Glad to see everyone has a battle now and then. you can usually tellwhen you dismantle them and see the last guy has done something weird like silicone the c/c bolts in an exact place or soemthing that someone previous has had a battle on their hands. By then it's too late. I should have left a warning sharpied inside the cistern lid. It would read, "Syphon change? Quote for 3 hours."

 

[WHPES]

Sometimes I find I need to saw a bit off the thread on some siphons.

 

[Koogatubac]

Just been to a job which was a mates who's toilet has been installed for 3 months

Foam doughnut at the top was crushed compared to rest of the circle. Turned it so it was on the back siliconed outside of doughnut and inside of doughnut where the siphon will release water.

I find the rubber doughnuts the best. This is the first time ive siliconed a doughnut and its sealed... Dont like doing it but at 7pm, merchants closed and on way home thought would give a try to get his wc working.

Got a 4pk of san miguel and £20 mates rates 😉

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

had 3 toilets this week all where nightmares even the vitow washer peed out on one i hate bogs 2 in 1 house to day got so stressed with one i could have thrown it out the window still not got the pn for the washer but it did not work anyway found some cowboy had not put the backnuts on the through the cistern bolts so held down by the secondary nuts then inlet was 2 flexies joined together,no room to work managed to remove one other was partly tiled in,then to top it off threads on new fluid master was either faulty or the remaining flexie was not starting on the threads had to go buy a FI strait to put on the inlet
:89:I HATE TOILETS BAST@@@ THINGS AND I HATE FLEXIES AND BATHROOM FITTERS WHO ARE NUGGETS