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Ever noticed that mostly the first one come's off not too bad but the second wing nut is an absolute nightmare!
 
Or it is even worse when the wc is very close to the wall and you cannot get in about properly! Worship The 2-part syphon!!!!
 
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WD40 tried it, about 30 years of rust! surprised they just haven't coroded away.

Tried everything, won't budge!

Cant get access to hacksaw as too tight.
unscrew both cistern & pan. lift both out together, turn them both upsidedown and you'll have all the room you need to cut bolts with your hacksaw.
 
never had to use an angle grinder on cistern bolts, always managed with hacksaw either junior or my home made racing cut down junior or just a blade from a large hacksaw
 
Or do what the boy from my last job did, just raise the water level and tell the tenant that it is fixed then muggin's here is back to fix it properly two day's later!
 
Its amazing how years of old peoples pee splashes corrode those bolts. I bet the floor boards both sides of the pan are also rotted. :goofy:
 
I think i have changed around 8 or 9 c/c syphon's in the past fortnight in roughly the same area and all have been the same model cistern and about 5-6 year old! Must have been a contract on at the time, amazing how they all go at the same time!!
 
never had to use an angle grinder on cistern bolts, always managed with hacksaw either junior or my home made racing cut down junior or just a blade from a large hacksaw

But then you haven't got an excuse to buy a new toy, sorry I mean another useful tool.
 
never failed with a hacksaw either cut halfway though the bolt and snap off with your grips or cut though the wing nut and prise off

im with you on this one god knows how some of these plumber would have managed 25 years ago when there were few power tools around
if you have a tool for every job your going to come across in this game youll need an artic not a van
by the time youve gone to the van got the angle grinder and run a lead in it would be done
 
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Angle grinders are great, the bigger the better, though i think i preferred my fingers and eye (don't forget gloves and goggles)
 
im with you on this one god knows how some of these plumber would have managed 25 years ago when there were few power tools around
if you have a tool for every job your going to come across in this game youll need an artic not a van
by the time youve gone to the van got the angle grinder and run a lead in it would be done

You don't need to use the tools for the job. All you need is the excuse to buy them so that you can sit in the garage and fondle them.
 
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Angel Grinder on a dunny? ye gods. Hacksaw will do the job, will give you cramp but it will do it!!!
 
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You normally are removing the rusty wing nut because you are replacing the Syphon if this is the case then I always do it from above inside the cistern.12" hacksaw blade cut Syphon tube in cistern lift off cistern,rusty old bolts in front of you I normally grind the bolt in half with my cordless AG,but junior is just as easy.job done no risk of breaking pan or cistern.
 

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